Moving the mailing lists

David Miller justdave at
Fri Oct 6 08:27:00 UTC 2006

For those who don't know, the mail processing and mailing list hosting
for is hosted at Syndicomm, which is where I've had all of
my personal domains hosted for the last several years.  The Bugzilla
website got moved to servers a year and a half ago, but the
mail processing never did, mainly because of the difficulty of trying to
move the list server (and that there wasn't a machine to put it on
easily at Mozilla).  Well, now we have machines at Mozilla that it can
be put on, and the issue is being forced anyway, as the hosting side of
Syndicomm's business is getting shut down on December 1st, so we have
until then to move out.

I think we should probably take this opportunity to move the developers
list to the newsgroup/mailing list.  We can
make the old address continue to work (it's easy to remember :) and have
it deliver there.

For the rest of the lists, we can set them up on the new mail server.
The next question of course, is Majordomo2 vs Mailman.  Mailman is
easier to install because RHEL packages it.  Majordomo2 is still only
available as source.  A year or two ago when asked this question I'd be
fighting to keep Majordomo2.  But my Mailman experience at the time was
Mailman 2.0, and most of the things I liked about Mj2 that Mailman was
lacking got added to Mailman in 2.1.  The list is currently hosted on
Majordomo2, so it theoretically wouldn't be *that* hard to move
everything intact if we kept using it.

The list archives aren't directly compatible between Mj2 and Mailman.
Both store the messages in mbox files for the archives, but the metadata
and indexing is done differently.  So moving the archives to Mailman
might be "interesting".  Although I'd be surprised if there aren't
scripts out there somewhere to have mailman reindex a bare mbox file.

The other issue is IMAP accounts.  There's a couple of you with IMAP
accounts on  I'll be pestering you soon about where to
send your mail if you're one of them.  We aren't going to be able to
host those at Mozilla unless you're an employee.

Dave Miller                         
System Administrator, Mozilla Corporation
Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System

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