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Joost de Valk bugzilla at joostdevalk.nl
Wed Jun 28 20:12:45 UTC 2006


I'm astonished, compare this:

> Exposing any new variable to the bugs templates requires changing  
> the code.
>

How would you have it work otherwise? I agree with timeless that there
are a couple (user, bug) which should always be there.

with your answer here:

On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Gervase Markham wrote:

> Joost de Valk wrote:
>> I must agree with Daniel here, my experience is that some stuff  
>> simply
>> isn't there to play with. One of the simple customizations i'm  
>> thinking
>> of here is the fact that you have to expose the bug variable to the
>> template in attachment.cgi, to do ANYTHING based on which product  
>> you're
>> adding an attachment for.
>>
>> Simple stuff like that requires you to fiddle with the code, so i  
>> think
>> a lot of useful and quite simple customizations would require you to
>> change code.
>
> OK... you say that is "simple stuff", but in fact, it's incredibly
> niche. Let's break the sentence down:
>
> You have to expose the FOO variable to the template in BAR.cgi, to do
> ANYTHING based on which WIDGET you're VERBing a FRED for.
>
> That sentence could just have easily have been:
>
> "You have to expose the user variable to the template in
> showdependencygraph.cgi to do ANYTHING based on which user you're
> showing the dependencies to. Simple stuff like that requires you to
> fiddle with the code..."
>
> My point is that there could be thousands and thousands of these
> "simple" requirements, each entirely dependent on the particular
> situation and need of the company in question. Is it really  
> feasible to
> meet any significant proportion of requests like this?
>
> I'm not sure that we're capable of reaching a place where the majority
> of requests like your "Simple stuff" above will be doable without  
> having
> to change the code. Perhaps I'm being pessimistic. But if there are  
> 1000
> companies, there seem to be 1001 ways of bug tracking.

i'm not asking you to expose them all and never did, i didn't write  
the sentence you thought i did. IF user and bug are always available,  
that would probably make 80% of the stuff easier. if you think that  
there is no way we can improve bugzilla for all, or at least a big  
part of our community, why the heck are you even coding on it?

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