Release schedule plans

Christopher Hicks chicks at
Tue Jan 11 20:59:32 UTC 2005

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Gervase Markham wrote:
>> When evaluating rudeness it's really only a personal opinion, because there 
>> are no general accepted criterias for classifying things as rude or not. 
>> Only general guidelines :-) that vary from culture to culture. 
> You can't use that to conclude that therefore rudeness doesn't exist.
> The obvious measure of rudeness is whether the person you are talking to 
> considers it rude. I think that Dave's comment that he hasn't said anything 
> in this discussion yet because he can't trust himself not to get into a 
> flamewar speaks volumes about how you have made him feel.

Gerv - thank you for standing up and pointing out what should be 
self-evident here.

> If people had perfect control over their emotional reactions to things, then 
> this might be possible. But they don't. And even if they did, what you would 
> be saying here is that "I am not going to take the time to present my 
> arguments in a polite fashion, and so everyone else needs to make an effort 
> to carefully hold their emotions in check and ignore my rudeness."

This is sadly a common trap for intelligent folk who may not be as well 
developed in other areas.  Vlad - I'm not belittling you for repeating a 
common human fault, but I hope to you realize that many brilliant people 
before you have fallen into the same trap.

> I'm not emailing you in private partly because I think this discussion 
> is of interest to other members of the list, and partly because I hope 
> that everyone will read about my mistakes in the past in this area and 
> not make them themselves.

It is quite admirable to have a strong enough sense of what is right to 
stand up despite your past failings in this area.  Thank you.

Should we have a flame war anonymous?  :)


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