post FOSDEM

[Gabor Szabo]

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Max Kanat-Alexander
<mkanat at bugzilla.org> wrote:
> On 02/13/2010 07:41 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote:

>> Maybe technically it would be easier for many people to use CVS than to
>> learn the few basic commands Bazar needs to get started but I think the
>> emotions will quickly kick in. (Even with SVN I keep getting comments that
>> people are not involved in Padre because they want to use Git)
>
>        Well, I think that we'll offer both for a while, so we'll see how
> people respond.

That's the best.

>> We could try to build a CPAN distro but explicitly turning off the
>> "install" target and telling people the installation is still the same
>> as earlier. That one could be uploaded do CPAN as a developer release
>> and then we could work out the specific issues with frequent new
>> developer releases to CPAN that mostly will try to address the
>> packaging and installation issues.
>
>        Yeah, but I'm worried that it would just increase our support burden,
> which is something that I try to avoid. That is, there would be a lot of
> people on the support list and in IRC going "I tried to install Bugzilla
> and it didn't work...." and then we'd ask them what they did and they'd
> say "I did 'install Bugzilla'....".

As long as the version number on CPAN has an _ underscore in it,
the package is not included in the main index so regular people can not
install it but you can already collect the karma for uploading to CPAN.

Just make it clear in the CPAN upload and the accompanying blog entry
that it is the first experimental upload and full installation from CPAN
was not yet implemented.

>        One of the most important things to know about Bugzilla is that the
> vast, vast majority of our users know nothing at all about Perl or CPAN,
> so they have to always be provided installation options that are
> straightforward, simple, and always work, or they run into a lot of
> trouble and either decide not to use Bugzilla or decide to come to us
> for support.

Then I guess most of them won't install from CPAN anyway.
Also I think we (let me include myself in this) would like to increase
the number of Perl programmers using Bugzilla as that could lead more
volunteers to code.

Anyway, I'll first try to install Bugzilla so I won't just talk in the air and
then I'll try create the appropriate files and submit as a patch.

Gabor