From tsahi_75 at nospam.yahoo.com Mon Sep 1 22:11:44 2008 From: tsahi_75 at nospam.yahoo.com (Tsahi Asher) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:11:44 +0300 Subject: how does bugzilla detect the modules versions? Message-ID: I am having troubles installing an integration package called SCMBug (which is mentioned on the bugzilla add ons wiki page). for some reason the latest version fails to detect the version of the DBI perl module (returns "undef" from DBI::Version and DBI::VERSION). so i was wondering, how does bugzilla detects the version of a module, like DBI? i'm asking because bugzilla's checksetup.pl detects the version correctly, as it is registered in PPM (i'm running bugzilla on Windows Server 2003 x64, with ActivePerl 5.8.8). is there some other API SCMBug should be using? Tsahi _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From gerv at mozilla.org Tue Sep 2 09:27:20 2008 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:27:20 +0100 Subject: how does bugzilla detect the modules versions? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tsahi Asher wrote: > I am having troubles installing an integration package called SCMBug > (which is mentioned on the bugzilla add ons wiki page). for some reason > the latest version fails to detect the version of the DBI perl module > (returns "undef" from DBI::Version and DBI::VERSION). so i was > wondering, how does bugzilla detects the version of a module, like DBI? > i'm asking because bugzilla's checksetup.pl detects the version > correctly, as it is registered in PPM (i'm running bugzilla on Windows > Server 2003 x64, with ActivePerl 5.8.8). is there some other API SCMBug > should be using? See Requirements.pm, have_vers() subroutine. Basically, it's built around: eval "require $module;"; Gerv _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From diego.martin at atosorigin.com Tue Sep 2 12:23:34 2008 From: diego.martin at atosorigin.com (DIEGO_83) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 05:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: some dependencies for a newbie Message-ID: <19269170.post@talk.nabble.com> hi all, i am trying to use mylyn in an integration, i would like to know if it is possible to use mylyn without eclipse, i mean, use mylyn directy from java code to java code. i am quit newbie and any piece of advise would be great thanks a lot -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/some-dependencies-for-a-newbie-tp19269170p19269170.html Sent from the Bugzilla - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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Please try it now : and make big bucks in a few short weeks!!!!!! _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From dottedmag at dottedmag.net Thu Sep 4 18:01:06 2008 From: dottedmag at dottedmag.net (Mikhail Gusarov) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:01:06 +0700 Subject: Self-Introduction: Mikhail Gusarov Message-ID: <871vzzeqot.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> Hello, My name is Mikhail Gusarov, and I'd like to introduce myself to Bugzilla developers. I'm working on ALT Linux Ltd. company (my position is something between community manager, knowledge manager, software engineer and techdoc writer) and as a part of my work I maintain ALT Linux bugtracker. Our Bugzilla has accumulated fair amount of patches, and I hope I'll be able to disentangle them and push back to the upstream Bugzilla. Main areas of patches we've got so far: - efficient handling of thousands of components in products (both from user point of view and performance) - more flexible email subscriptions - Various GUI tweaking I live in Novosibirsk, Russia (UTC+6). My IRC nick is 'dottedmag'. -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kbaker at redhat.com Thu Sep 4 18:34:58 2008 From: kbaker at redhat.com (Kevin Baker) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:34:58 -0400 Subject: Self-Introduction: Mikhail Gusarov In-Reply-To: <871vzzeqot.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> References: <871vzzeqot.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> Message-ID: <20080904183458.GU4328@dhcp-100-2-242.bos.redhat.com> > - efficient handling of thousands of components in products (both from > user point of view and performance) Hi Mikhail would love to see this patch! Kevin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dottedmag at dottedmag.net Thu Sep 4 19:00:08 2008 From: dottedmag at dottedmag.net (Mikhail Gusarov) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:00:08 +0700 Subject: Self-Introduction: Mikhail Gusarov In-Reply-To: <20080904183458.GU4328@dhcp-100-2-242.bos.redhat.com> (Kevin Baker's message of "Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:34:58 -0400") References: <871vzzeqot.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> <20080904183458.GU4328@dhcp-100-2-242.bos.redhat.com> Message-ID: <87vdxbd9dz.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> Twas brillig at 14:34:58 04.09.2008 UTC-04 when kbaker at redhat.com did gyre and gimble: >> - efficient handling of thousands of components in products (both from >> user point of view and performance) KB> would love to see this patch! I'll need a little help with this actually :) The approach which is implemented on https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/ is AJAX-based completion for "Components" editbox. To go to upstream, code will need serious cleanup. I have several questions about it: Is it ok to just assume everyone has a AJAX-capable browser? Is it ok to just show editbox for those who don't have one? I do have a simple heuristic which displays either listbox or autocomplete-box depending on the components amount, is it enough? Many files need to be changed: Bugzilla::Product should provide more versatile interface for querying components, all modules and CGIs should be changed to avoid fetching whole components list, many templates should be changed to have AJAX fields instead of listbox. What's the proper way to handle it? 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If anyone wants to have a look, code for bz3.0 is here: http://git.altlinux.org/people/dottedmag/packages/?p=bugzilla.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/topic-components-lists -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available URL: From guy.pyrzak at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 19:57:27 2008 From: guy.pyrzak at gmail.com (Guy Pyrzak) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:57:27 -0700 Subject: Self-Introduction: Mikhail Gusarov In-Reply-To: <87r67zd90j.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> References: <871vzzeqot.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> <20080904183458.GU4328@dhcp-100-2-242.bos.redhat.com> <87vdxbd9dz.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> <87r67zd90j.fsf@frontier.dottedmag.net> Message-ID: We are trying to use YUI for all AJAX stuff. No you can't assume that everyone has a JS enabled browser, but the good news is it just has to still work, it doesn't have to be as nice. As far as managing the thousands of components etc, I was thinking we'd just use the YUI autocomplete in the single select mode, you can use that + AJAX to do quick narrowing and typing in of components. It looks like you've got somthing pretty similar which is great. I also liked your simple search along with the advanced search. I'm looking forward to seeing what you submit. If you need any help with YUI let me know. -Guy On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > Twas brillig at 02:00:08 05.09.2008 UTC+07 when dottedmag at dottedmag.netdid gyre and gimble: > > MG> The approach which is implemented on https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/ > MG> is AJAX-based completion for "Components" editbox. > > If anyone wants to have a look, code for bz3.0 is here: > > http://git.altlinux.org/people/dottedmag/packages/?p=bugzilla.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/topic-components-lists > > -- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lpsolit at gmail.com Sun Sep 7 13:34:55 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:34:55 +0200 Subject: Bugzilla meeting next Tuesday, Sept. 9, at 11:00 PDT Message-ID: <48C3D87F.3030403@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Our next Bugzilla meeting will take place on Tuesday, September 9, at 11:00 PDT (18:00 GMT, 20:00 CEST) on IRC (irc.mozilla.org) in the #bugzilla-meeting channel. Everyone is free to attend. The agenda is available at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Meetings See you on Tuesday, LpSolit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIw9h/pbdQmv7Zq3ERAtpEAJ9Ix1jLxdMXz4UJZnj3DORSQzsaZwCfWUcu t9hsgjXW3UOPXTnCx2jVnwM= =McTk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From justdave at bugzilla.org Sun Sep 7 20:30:27 2008 From: justdave at bugzilla.org (David Miller) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:30:27 -0400 Subject: Self-Introduction: Boris Stefanov In-Reply-To: <15F26D0D9E18E24583D912511D668FF801FC5DE9@exchange.ad.tlogica.com> References: <15F26D0D9E18E24583D912511D668FF801FC5DE9@exchange.ad.tlogica.com> Message-ID: <48C439E3.8080603@bugzilla.org> Boris BS. Stefanov wrote on 8/28/08 5:50 AM: > * Strong Oracle skills ? we are currently evaluating BugZilla ? > maybe I can give a hand with the Oracle (XE) migration :D That'd be great. I know we have a script for migrating between MySQL and Postgres and vice versa, not sure if it does between either of those and Oracle or not. Sounds like you'd be a great help with that part if it doesn't. -- Dave Miller http://www.justdave.net/ System Administrator, Mozilla Corporation http://www.mozilla.com/ Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.bugzilla.org/ From mkanat at bugzilla.org Mon Sep 8 00:58:38 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:58:38 -0700 Subject: Self-Introduction: Boris Stefanov In-Reply-To: <48C439E3.8080603@bugzilla.org> References: <15F26D0D9E18E24583D912511D668FF801FC5DE9@exchange.ad.tlogica.com> <48C439E3.8080603@bugzilla.org> Message-ID: <20080907175838.0cf47e87@es-compy> On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:30:27 -0400 David Miller wrote: > That'd be great. I know we have a script for migrating between MySQL > and Postgres and vice versa, not sure if it does between either of > those and Oracle or not. It does. However, we could always use help with Oracle bugs. Just search for bugs with [Oracle] in the summary. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From colemanblue at hotmail.com Mon Sep 8 09:49:52 2008 From: colemanblue at hotmail.com (Nancy) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 02:49:52 -0700 Subject: Phishing options References: Message-ID: Kindly reply.. "Nancy" wrote in message news:J_2dnc4HUvvuEhTVnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d at mozilla.org... > Hi, > Please tell me clearly what phishing options are. _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From michael.j.tosh at lmco.com Mon Sep 8 13:22:16 2008 From: michael.j.tosh at lmco.com (Tosh, Michael J) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:22:16 -0400 Subject: Empty field gets set to 0 when updating bug In-Reply-To: <4897219E.1040402@marold.org> References: <4897219E.1040402@marold.org> Message-ID: Quoting Andrew Marold: > When I edit a bug if I leave this field > empty, it winds up getting set to 0. If I set it to some valid valid > it gets set properly. What is the default value for this field, and is Null set to YES? (Mysql: describe bugs;) > On a related note, where are you supposed to put validators for new > fields ? I tried putting some code in run_create_validators() but it > didn't appear to be getting used. This particular field is never set > on bug creation, only on subsequent updates. sub VALIDATORS returns an hash of callback functions indexed by the fields they are used to validate. (In bugzilla 3.0.x anyway...) From tsahi_75 at nospam.yahoo.com Mon Sep 8 18:30:07 2008 From: tsahi_75 at nospam.yahoo.com (Tsahi Asher) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:30:07 +0300 Subject: how does bugzilla detect the modules versions? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?????? 02/09/2008 12:27, ????? Gervase Markham: > Tsahi Asher wrote: >> (returns "undef" from DBI::Version and DBI::VERSION). so i was >> wondering, how does bugzilla detects the version of a module, like DBI? > > See Requirements.pm, have_vers() subroutine. Basically, it's built around: > > eval "require $module;"; > > Gerv excuse my ignorance in perl, but what does the $vnum = eval { $module->VERSION } || -1; line there does? in particular, the $module->VERSION? tsahi _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From michael.j.tosh at lmco.com Mon Sep 8 19:02:48 2008 From: michael.j.tosh at lmco.com (Tosh, Michael J) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:02:48 -0400 Subject: how does bugzilla detect the modules versions? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Quoting Tsahi Asher: > excuse my ignorance in perl, but what does the > > $vnum = eval { $module->VERSION } || -1; Attempt to find the global variable, VERSION, of the object loaded into $module. If successful store that value in the variable $vnum, otherwise store -1 in that variable. Basically, the $module Object needs to have a global VERSION defined. _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From mkanat at bugzilla.org Tue Sep 9 00:32:13 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:32:13 -0700 Subject: how does bugzilla detect the modules versions? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080908173213.26626ee1@es-compy> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:30:07 +0300 Tsahi Asher wrote: > $vnum = eval { $module->VERSION } || -1; > > line there does? in particular, the $module->VERSION? $module->VERSION is the modern standard way of getting the version of the module. By default, it returns $module::VERSION. (So, for example, if $module = 'DBI', then we're looking at $DBI::VERSION.) -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From lpsolit at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 06:10:21 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:10:21 +0200 Subject: Bugzilla meeting postponed! Message-ID: <48C6134D.10104@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Sorry for the late announcement, but the Bugzilla meeting finally won't take place today. It is postponed by a week and we will meet *next* Tuesday, Sept 16. The reason is that both mkanat and me cannot attend, for personal reasons (which were still unknown when I emailed you last Sunday). With two of the three Bugzilla managers being away, we decided it was better to meet next week. Have a nice day, LpSolit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxhNNpbdQmv7Zq3ERAmPaAKCJUME+/5vD1RDT7U2kTEdg3tSDnwCfZx9w 8sB2fmtoxjZycSTeD9IlHWo= =f7nm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shimono at mozilla.gr.jp Sun Sep 14 11:43:45 2008 From: shimono at mozilla.gr.jp (Atsushi Shimono) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:43:45 +0900 Subject: 3.2 performance measure Message-ID: hi, We've upgraded our bugzilla (Bugzilla-jp *1) to 3.2RC1+ last week, and i've collected some performance data. Graph (*2) shows indivisual accesses for show_bug.cgi as "one dot" by * x axis : output html size for each query (byte) * y axis : execution time for each query measured by Apache (usec) Red and green points are for 3.0 (Bugzilla-ja 3.0-ja *3) and 3.2RC1+ respectively. From this graph, I might be able to say that 3.2 shows less performance than 3.0 by 1.2 to 1.3 times, but this might be explained by new features in 3.2. Note, this 3.2RC1+ isn't patched for LpSolit's new performance patch for flag. mkanat, sorry that i've said about performance without such analysis.. :) If you need, i think i can provide raw datasets including url, and HTTP status code. urls *1 Bugzilla-jp : http://bugzilla.mozilla.gr.jp/ *2 http://bugzilla.mozilla.gr.jp/attachment.cgi?id=3881 *3 http://developer.mozilla.org/Ja/Bugzilla-ja (Only in Japanese) regards, -- Atsushi Shimono - shimono at mozilla.gr.jp From lpsolit at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 12:18:20 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:18:20 +0200 Subject: 3.2 performance measure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48CD010C.3040003@gmail.com> Atsushi Shimono a ?crit : > From this graph, I might be able to say that 3.2 shows less performance > than 3.0 by 1.2 to 1.3 times, but this might be explained by new features > in 3.2. It would be interesting to know which parts of the code slow down the process. Maybe using DProf would help. LpSolit From bossekr at debian.org Mon Sep 15 10:24:34 2008 From: bossekr at debian.org (Raphael Bossek) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:24:34 +0200 Subject: Self-Introduction: Raphael Bossek Message-ID: * Raphael Bossek * Germany * Contribute the feedback from Debian and his users * Historical qualifications o What other technical projects have you worked on in the past? http://www.debian.org, http://moinmo.in, http://www.emdebian.org, http://u-boot.sf.net o What level and type of computer skills do you have? Expert in software development in different languages o What other skills do you have that might be applicable? User interface design, other so-called soft skills (people skills), etc. Does not matter -- Raphael Bossek From mkanat at bugzilla.org Mon Sep 15 23:49:31 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:49:31 -0700 Subject: Bugzilla Survey 2008: Results Message-ID: <20080915164931.16dd9f8f@es-compy> Hey! So, as some of you know, the Mozilla Foundation funded my company, Everything Solved, to perform a survey of the various organizations that use Bugzilla, to determine various things about how they use Bugzilla, what they like, what they don't, and generally give us some guidance on where we should go in the future with the Project. The survey was completed some time ago, but I had to wait for release authorization from a few of the organizations who I surveyed. I have all that now, so here are the results, linked from this page as a PDF: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Survey -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From mkanat at bugzilla.org Tue Sep 16 02:14:38 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:14:38 -0700 Subject: Bugzilla Meeting: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 Message-ID: <20080915191438.30911d75@es-compy> Hey everybody! Just a reminder that we're having a meeting on Tuesday, September 16, 2008, in #bugzilla-meeting on irc.mozilla.org. The meeting happens at 11:00 PDT (18:00 GMT, 20:00 CEST) on IRC (irc.mozilla.org) in the #bugzilla-meeting channel. Everyone is free to attend. The agenda is available at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Meetings -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From mkanat at bugzilla.org Fri Sep 19 08:45:29 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:45:29 -0700 Subject: Avast! 'Tis the 10th Anniversary of Bugzilla 2.0 Today! :-) Message-ID: <20080919014529.7a088ea7@es-lappy> Ahoy! A bit of a blog about it, I have! http://avatraxiom.livejournal.com/90266.html Feel free to contribute to the sphere o' blogs on it. :-) -Max From shimono at mozilla.gr.jp Fri Sep 19 17:12:29 2008 From: shimono at mozilla.gr.jp (Atsushi Shimono) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:12:29 +0900 Subject: 3.2 performance measure In-Reply-To: <48CD010C.3040003@gmail.com> References: <48CD010C.3040003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D3DD7D.4080505@mozilla.gr.jp> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi, Fr?d?ric Buclin wrote: > Atsushi Shimono a ?crit : >> From this graph, I might be able to say that 3.2 shows less performance >> than 3.0 by 1.2 to 1.3 times, but this might be explained by new features >> in 3.2. > > It would be interesting to know which parts of the code slow down the > process. Maybe using DProf would help. Yeah, i think to try with DProf. I think i've heard that it has some problem related on perl TT. So, i'll report something including that. We're planning to upgrade our site, Bugzilla-jp, with Sep/18/2008's 3.2 branch trunk next tuesday. (plus updated l10n -ja) I think i can report something similar after this. regards, - -- Atsushi Shimono - shimono at mozilla.gr.jp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEAREKAAYFAkjT3XkACgkQBygbhFUCKWbXOgCfSjsRuAQv0cr/SsCb93jsaGwj sYwAn37XXDeebddRjFSfa05svlwAH+N9 =6U7B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mkanat at bugzilla.org Fri Sep 19 17:22:34 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:22:34 -0700 Subject: 3.2 performance measure In-Reply-To: <48D3DD7D.4080505@mozilla.gr.jp> References: <48CD010C.3040003@gmail.com> <48D3DD7D.4080505@mozilla.gr.jp> Message-ID: <20080919102234.0b51e094@es-lappy> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:12:29 +0900 Atsushi Shimono wrote: > Yeah, i think to try with DProf. I think i've heard that it has some > problem related on perl TT. So, i'll report something including that. I already did a bunch of profiling with Devel::NYTProf after you posted your original post. I didn't see anything that stood out as particularly bad, after you take into account the fact that profilers seem to slow down TT a *lot*. -Max From bbaetz at acm.org Sat Sep 20 01:09:25 2008 From: bbaetz at acm.org (Bradley Baetz) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:09:25 +1000 Subject: 3.2 performance measure In-Reply-To: <48D3DD7D.4080505@mozilla.gr.jp> References: <48CD010C.3040003@gmail.com> <48D3DD7D.4080505@mozilla.gr.jp> Message-ID: <99435f5b0809191809g77be599cjd6ce1c556b94e3fb@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:12 AM, Atsushi Shimono wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > hi, > > Fr?d?ric Buclin wrote: >> Atsushi Shimono a ?crit : >>> From this graph, I might be able to say that 3.2 shows less performance >>> than 3.0 by 1.2 to 1.3 times, but this might be explained by new features >>> in 3.2. >> >> It would be interesting to know which parts of the code slow down the >> process. Maybe using DProf would help. > > Yeah, i think to try with DProf. I think i've heard that it has some > problem related on perl TT. So, i'll report something including that. Last time I tried dprof on bugzilla, it didn't break down stuff inside TT that usefully. One thing that comes to mind would be if for some reason something was doing a bad job with multi-byte characters, eg some of our templates use regexs, .contains, and so on that aren't as easy to optimise when each character takes a different number of bytes. Has anyone done a similar look using the english locale? What perl version is this - 5.8 or 5.10? Bradley From lpsolit at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 16:16:58 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:16:58 +0200 Subject: Minutes of the last Bugzilla meeting Message-ID: <48D9167A.1060107@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Here are the minutes of our last meeting: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Meetings:2008-09-16 Two major news: - - The keyword chooser is definitely gone - - We are going to release Bugzilla 3.2 RC2 LpSolit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFI2RZ6pbdQmv7Zq3ERAsU+AKChl//3HNHjN3xu0zp1EpRbHBRtIQCcDq9x x84GWmSc5imj4WAvaZ9l7L4= =yeA/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gerv at mozilla.org Mon Sep 29 20:40:39 2008 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:40:39 +0100 Subject: Bugzilla Survey 2008: Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Max Kanat-Alexander wrote: > The survey was completed some time ago, but I had to wait for > release authorization from a few of the organizations who I surveyed. I > have all that now, so here are the results, linked from this page as a > PDF: > > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Survey So is there a plan to do something with these results? Are there bugs on file? Do we need to start discussions about various feature proposals? Have any priorities changed? Gerv _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From lpsolit at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 20:49:47 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:49:47 +0200 Subject: Bugzilla Survey 2008: Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48E13F6B.1010403@gmail.com> Gervase Markham a ?crit : > So is there a plan to do something with these results? Are there bugs on > file? Several bugs have already been filed on b.m.o based on this survey. LpSolit From ahdevans at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 21:19:10 2008 From: ahdevans at gmail.com (Aaron Evans) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:19:10 -0700 Subject: Bugzilla Survey 2008: Results In-Reply-To: <48E13F6B.1010403@gmail.com> References: <48E13F6B.1010403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <36fce4890809291419m8a7e15cp784f0544dc641b93@mail.gmail.com> this is awesome information! On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Fr?d?ric Buclin wrote: > Gervase Markham a ?crit : > > So is there a plan to do something with these results? Are there bugs on > > file? > > Several bugs have already been filed on b.m.o based on this survey. > > > LpSolit > - > To view or change your list settings, click here: > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkanat at bugzilla.org Mon Sep 29 23:28:23 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:28:23 -0700 Subject: Bugzilla Survey 2008: Results In-Reply-To: <48E13F6B.1010403@gmail.com> References: <48E13F6B.1010403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080929162823.448485dc@es-lappy> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:49:47 +0200 Fr?d?ric Buclin wrote: > Several bugs have already been filed on b.m.o based on this survey. We probably need to file a few more. I also wanted to mark bugs in the Status Whiteboard with [survey-high] if they were requested by multiple organizations, or just [survey] if they came up as wanted in the survey. Then I can go through and re-prioritize stuff. -Max