dev-apps-bugzilla Digest, Vol 31, Issue 4

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>   1. Re: Documentation (David Miller)
>   2. Re: Self-Introduction: Rupert Anthony Handford (David Miller)
>   3. Re: Documentation (David Miller)
>   4. Re: Contrib/  Bugzilla Stripping Tool (David Miller)
>   5. Bugzilla flyer for OSCON (David Miller)
>   6. Re: Bugzilla flyer for OSCON (Max Kanat-Alexander)
>   7. Re: Bugzilla flyer for OSCON (David Miller)
>   8. Re: Bugzilla flyer for OSCON (Max Kanat-Alexander)
>   9. Self-Introduction: Stefan V?lkel (bd at bc-bd.org)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:39:49 -0400
> From: David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
> Subject: Re: Documentation
> To: developers at bugzilla.org
> Message-ID: <487A7625.3020500 at bugzilla.org>
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> Colin Ogilvie wrote on 7/13/08 1:17 PM:
>> David Miller wrote:
>>> XMLTO_Documentation_Branch works for me.
>>
>> I've started work on this today, and have made some initial checkins for
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423496 (all the details are
>> on the bug) and by process of this, 2 of the 3 dependant bugs will also
>> be resolved if this was committed as is.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I'm still looking at the PDF stuff as it's still
>> producing a load of rubbish to STDERR :(
>
> While you're at it, the HTML generation is hanging periodically on the
> website.  Seems to be related to it needing to retrieve DTD files off
> oasis-open.org in order to build (despite having copies of those files
> locally on the machine) and oasis-open.org is rate-limiting us because
> we're pulling too much at once (trying to build 3 copies of the docs -
> twice for HTML and once for PDF - times 4 to 8 versions of bugzilla that
> we have docs on the website for).
>
> Finding a way to make it use the local SGML/XML docbook catalog instead
> of retrieving the files off the web might be useful.
>
> In trying to debug this so far I've gotten the impression that if you
> declare PUBLIC entity and specify a URL for it, it'll use the URL,
> period.  It only looks it up in the catalog if the URL isn't supplied.
> I can't find any command-line switches for jade to override that either.
> I haven't tested that theory by removing the URLs yet though.
>
> -- 
> Dave Miller                                   http://www.justdave.net/
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:48:30 -0400
> From: David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
> Subject: Re: Self-Introduction: Rupert Anthony Handford
> To: developers at bugzilla.org
> Message-ID: <487A782E.4000102 at bugzilla.org>
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> rupert at handfordonline.plus.com wrote on 7/10/08 3:47 AM:
>> Name: Rupert Anthony Handford
>
>> I would love to contribute to your project so that the hours I spend here
>> typing away are for the good of all and not just for my entertainment.
>
> Welcome!  We'd be happy to have your help.
>
> It's really hard to know what to ask for help with...  What people
> really wind up being good at doesn't always line up with what they've
> done in the past and we want you to have fun helping, too. :)
>
> There's a bunch of things listed at http://www.bugzilla.org/contribute/
>
> If you've recently installed Bugzilla or been administrating one, the
> documentation is one place that really needs help.  Even just pointing
> out things that the documentation is missing, even if you leave it for
> someone else to write. (Just file bugs on it in the Documentation
> component).
>
> If coding is your thing, there's links where to find good bugs to work
> on and so forth on http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Developers (which is
> probably where you found the request to post here).
>
> Just participating in the discussions here is a good way to stay
> involved, too.
>
> -- 
> Dave Miller                                   http://www.justdave.net/
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:14:39 -0400
> From: David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
> Subject: Re: Documentation
> To: developers at bugzilla.org
> Message-ID: <487A7E4F.2090908 at bugzilla.org>
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> David Miller wrote on 7/13/08 5:39 PM:
>> Finding a way to make it use the local SGML/XML docbook catalog instead
>> of retrieving the files off the web might be useful.
>>
>> In trying to debug this so far I've gotten the impression that if you
>> declare PUBLIC entity and specify a URL for it, it'll use the URL,
>> period.  It only looks it up in the catalog if the URL isn't supplied.
>> I can't find any command-line switches for jade to override that either.
>> I haven't tested that theory by removing the URLs yet though.
>
> OK, I just tried this, and that theory is indeed correct.  If I remove
> the URL entirely (not even a blank param for it), then it uses the local
> files specified by the SGML_CATALOG_FILES environment variable.  If the
> URL is there, it hits oasis-open.org to grab all of them.  Just removing
> the URL from the 3rd line of Bugzilla-Guide.xml completely eliminated
> all network access during the docs build, and the docs still build fine.
> (well, except for this stupid warning that happens a bazillion times
> with or without the URL:
> jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-dtd-4.1.2-1.0-30.1/ent/iso-cyr1.ent:6:16:E:
> "X0430" is not a function name
> )
>
> --- en/xml/Bugzilla-Guide.xml 20 May 2008 20:00:52 -0000 1.79
> +++ en/xml/Bugzilla-Guide.xml 13 Jul 2008 21:59:50 -0000
> @@ -1,6 +1,5 @@
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> -<!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN"
> -
> "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd" [
> +<!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN" [
>     <!ENTITY % myents SYSTEM "bugzilla.ent">
>     %myents;
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:03:18 -0400
> From: David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
> Subject: Re: Contrib/  Bugzilla Stripping Tool
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> Joel Peshkin wrote on 7/8/08 1:16 PM:
>
>>   I'm just in the process of splitting of a set of products that have
>> been sold to another company so that there is a copy of the original
>> company's Bugzilla containing only the subset of products being sold.
>>
>>   At the moment, the approach is to
>>   1) Make a copy
>>   2) Rename all the products that do NOT go with the new company to
>> start with "BYE_"
>>   3) Run a script full of mysql commands that systematically delete the
>> rows of all the tables that are associated with those products' bugs'
>> attachment's data, then products' bugs' attachments, then products'
>> bugs' longesc, etc......
>>
>>   I'm doing this for 2.22.*'s schema.
>>   I am wondering if this is something that should be made into a more
>> general capability and kept up to date as the schema evolves.   If so, I
>> would probably use a mechanism like "closed for bug entry" instead of
>> renaming the products to indicate which ones should go away. Any 
>> thoughts?
>
> We have something similar we've been using at Mozilla to produce
> sanitized copies of the database that only include publicly-visible data
> to give to researchers to avoid them having to pull xml versions of
> every bug in the system to reconstruct it all.  Our version removes all
> bugs that are in groups as well as insidergroup stuff and things in
> hidden products.
>
> It was originally a bunch of SQL but I ended up converting it to Perl so
> I could point it at a copy of Bugzilla and let it use the built-in code
> for deleting various things (which takes into account the foreign keys
> and so forth).
>
> It's on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421025
>
> -- 
> Dave Miller                                   http://www.justdave.net/
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:55:26 -0400
> From: David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
> Subject: Bugzilla flyer for OSCON
> To: developers at bugzilla.org
> Message-ID: <487BF57E.702 at bugzilla.org>
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> We had some brief talk on IRC a couple weeks ago about updating the
> Bugzilla flyer to use at OSCON, but it doesn't seem to have made it to
> the mailing list, and I don't know if anything was done.  OSCON is about
> a week away and I'd like to get something put together far enough in
> advance (like the next day or two) to avoid having to do a last minute
> rush order again like we did last year. :)
>
> Last year's flyer is at http://www.justdave.net/BugzillaFlyer.pdf if you
> want to see what it looks like, and the source is at
> http://www.justdave.net/BugzillaFlyer.odg (OpenOffice Draw format) if
> you want to play with it.  Anyone have suggestions for changes to it?
> Or should we just update the factual data to reflect the changes since
> last year and leave the format alone?
>
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> Dave Miller                                   http://www.justdave.net/
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:18:18 -0700
> From: Max Kanat-Alexander <mkanat at bugzilla.org>
> Subject: Re: Bugzilla flyer for OSCON
> To: developers at bugzilla.org
> Message-ID: <20080714191818.394d6714 at es-compy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:55:26 -0400 David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
> wrote:
>> Anyone have suggestions for changes to it?
>> Or should we just update the factual data to reflect the changes since
>> last year and leave the format alone?
>
> I think the format's pretty good. And actually, pretty much all
> the factual data is still the same, too. Maybe we should update the
> number of languages available, if that's not right anymore.
>
> -Max
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:43:32 -0400
> From: David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
> Subject: Re: Bugzilla flyer for OSCON
> To: developers at bugzilla.org
> Message-ID: <487C0ED4.2070609 at bugzilla.org>
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> Max Kanat-Alexander wrote on 7/14/08 10:18 PM:
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:55:26 -0400 David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Anyone have suggestions for changes to it?
>>> Or should we just update the factual data to reflect the changes since
>>> last year and leave the format alone?
>>
>> I think the format's pretty good. And actually, pretty much all
>> the factual data is still the same, too. Maybe we should update the
>> number of languages available, if that's not right anymore.
>
> And the databases (Oracle is actually in and not "landing soon" now, 
> right?)
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:28:20 -0700
> From: Max Kanat-Alexander <mkanat at bugzilla.org>
> Subject: Re: Bugzilla flyer for OSCON
> To: developers at bugzilla.org
> Message-ID: <20080714232820.1f62da84 at es-compy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:43:32 -0400 David Miller <justdave at bugzilla.org>
> wrote:
>> And the databases (Oracle is actually in and not "landing soon" now,
>> right?)
>
> Yeah, Oracle is here, though experimental.
>
> -Max
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:59:22 +0200
> From: bd at bc-bd.org
> Subject: Self-Introduction: Stefan V?lkel
> To: developers at bugzilla.org
> Message-ID: <20080715155922.GJ3749 at hexenkessel.bc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Name: Stefan V?lkel
> IRC: -
> Country: Germany
>
> I have been playing with Bugzilla's XML-RPC interface because I want to 
> create a
> couple of reports from it.
>
> I found out that it is missing some features I am going to need. Since 
> others
> may profit from my changes I want to get them upstream.
>
> Regarding my past, I am working with Linux since roughly 12 years, I have 
> worked
> as a Kernel Developer, System Engineer, Administrator, ...
>
> I have written a couple of irssi scripts, a wordpress plugin, half a 
> million
> shell scripts (at least it feels like half a million) and I maintain two
> packages for debian.
>
> regards
>
> Stefan
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