From cchan at mvista.com Thu Jan 3 01:42:14 2008 From: cchan at mvista.com (Clement Chan) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:42:14 -0800 Subject: Bugzilla Webservices API In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1199324535.26441.349.camel@bugtest.mvista.com> Aaron, It is nice to see more people helping out with the Web Service API, I recently created a Java XmlRpcClient to support a CRM application. It uses the WebService API to create bugs and search for bug status. If you want to get familiar with the search() an find() API. You may take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398281 The lastest patch.diff also contains the changes. Please try it out, the patch may already have some features that you need. - Clement On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 09:18 -0800, ahdevans at gmail.com wrote: > I was looking through a thread from October: > > http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.bugzilla/browse_thread/thread/ec6ae302c336e6a3 > > I'd like to see the webservices improved as well. > > I'd also like to see searches. The most valuable web service for me > would be getting a filtered list of bugs back from the webservice. > > I haven't touched bugzilla code, but I'm willing to help however I > can. Who do I talk to? > > aaron _at_ one-shore.com > _______________________________________________ > dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list > dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla > - > To view or change your list settings, click here: > From brandontkane at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 19:22:52 2008 From: brandontkane at gmail.com (brandontkane at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:22:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Examples for calling Bugzilla Web Services? Message-ID: Hi there, I'm looking at integrating some functionality into an application I've written to use some of the Bugzilla Web Services. The application itself is a Java application. I was just wondering if there are any examples or other resources I can use to help me get started with this? The Bugzilla docs list what services are available, but there isn't much on how to actually access them. Thanks in advance! Brandon _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From wurblzap at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 19:32:38 2008 From: wurblzap at gmail.com (Marc Schumann) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 20:32:38 +0100 Subject: Examples for calling Bugzilla Web Services? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brandon, 2008/1/4, brandontkane at gmail.com : > itself is a Java application. I was just wondering if there are any > examples or other resources I can use to help me get started with > this? you'll find a Perl script bz_webservice_demo.pl in Bugzilla's contrib directory. Its POD is at http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/html/api/contrib/bz_webservice_demo.html (as linked to from http://www.bugzilla.org/developers/ via http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/html/api/). Regards Marc _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From mbd at dbc.dk Fri Jan 4 19:45:52 2008 From: mbd at dbc.dk (Mads Bondo Dydensborg) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 20:45:52 +0100 Subject: Examples for calling Bugzilla Web Services? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200801042045.53070.mbd@dbc.dk> fredag 04 Januar 2008 skrev brandontkane at gmail.com: > Hi there, > > I'm looking at integrating some functionality into an application I've > written to use some of the Bugzilla Web Services. The application > itself is a Java application. I was just wondering if there are any > examples or other resources I can use to help me get started with > this? > I know of at least two projects: c#: oss.dbc.dk/bugzproxy perl: look in the bugzilla contrib directory Both use libraries to construct, transfer and parse XML-RPC messages - you probably want to look at something like http://ws.apache.org/xmlrpc/ or http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/j-xmlrpc.html (google java xml-rpc) and see if they don't have a testclient or something like that to test against a running bugzilla (such as landfill.bugzilla.org). Regards Mads -- Med venlig hilsen/Regards Systemudvikler/Systemsdeveloper cand.scient.dat, Ph.d., Mads Bondo Dydensborg Dansk BiblioteksCenter A/S, Tempovej 7-11, 2750 Ballerup, Tlf. +45 44 86 77 From cchan at mvista.com Fri Jan 4 19:39:29 2008 From: cchan at mvista.com (Clement Chan) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:39:29 -0800 Subject: Examples for calling Bugzilla Web Services? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1199475570.26441.382.camel@bugtest.mvista.com> Brandon, To connect to Bugzilla, Java applications must use XML::RPC. The most challenging part of using Java XmlRpcClient is to support the Cookie for maintaining a login session onto Bugzilla via the WebService API. There are resources out on the web that hinted on how to do that. It needs the 3.x version of XmlRpcClient in order to override the HttpTransport class though. - Clement On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 11:22 -0800, brandontkane at gmail.com wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm looking at integrating some functionality into an application I've > written to use some of the Bugzilla Web Services. The application > itself is a Java application. I was just wondering if there are any > examples or other resources I can use to help me get started with > this? > > The Bugzilla docs list what services are available, but there isn't > much on how to actually access them. > > Thanks in advance! > > Brandon > _______________________________________________ > dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list > dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla > - > To view or change your list settings, click here: > From mkanat at bugzilla.org Wed Jan 9 08:41:17 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:41:17 -0800 Subject: Thanks to manu and Cedric :-) Message-ID: <20080109004117.4502674d@es-compy> I really want to thank C?dric Corazza (Cedric) and Emmanuel Seyman (manu) for all their help with the 3.0.3 release. They made it possible for me to do it in just a few hours, because almost all of it was already done for me! :-) -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net Sat Jan 12 00:20:44 2008 From: fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net (Vitaly Fedrushkov) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:20:44 +0500 Subject: How long does Bugzilla take to translate? References: <8NidnZi-mLFwE1HbnZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@mozilla.org> <1188310265.4189.9.camel@reinout.rotterdam-cs.com> <1188829410.5128.32.camel@reinout.rotterdam-cs.com> Message-ID: "Reinout van Schouwen" wrote: > Gettext has solved this problem already, using it would > bring a lot more languages into scope. Alas gettext has little knowledge of translation problems, their vision boils down to http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Special-cases It looks more applicable to error messages in command line utilities of early GNU era than to sophisticated and quality text translations. > A thing I noticed during the translation process is that there are a lot > of places where small if-blocks determine whether a plural or a singular > should be used. This will only work in some languages; it will be hard > to impossible to correctly translate in languages that have multiple > plural forms. And this is why it is done completely different way in Bugzilla-ru. > Also, the current system requires the translator to be a programmer as > well, otherwise he doesn't stand a chance to understand what should be > translated and what shouldn't, in the pot-pourri of Perl, Javascript and > HTML that the templates consist of. Not a combination you find too > often. Any software localizer should be able to 'read' code written by others. Programming language does not matter as long as one can figure out these 'small if-blocks'. However, my lack in Perl knowledge DOES some trouble to, say, Bugzilla-ru. >From http://bugzilla-ru.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/bugzilla-ru/bugzilla-ru/README-ru.en: QUOTE Listed below are several Cyrillic-related problems not fixed or introduced in 3.0: Unable to save UTF-8 named attachment with MSIE: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328628 Comments are wrapped and search results are trimmed too short. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363153 Chart fonts not localizable. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364505 Localized checksetup.pl messages require UTF-8 capable console. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382398UNQUOTEAlso there are problems with bug linkification regular expressions, hot keys and so on.> All I can say to that is that the aspects you mention, especially> maintainability, *to translators* are practically zero.Enough said, this is time to offer something.From https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192677#c129:Gervase Markham 2003-04-22 16:01:59 PST I'd say we need a "localisers" mailing list for issues like that. Dave Miller 2003-04-22 22:41:53 PST Done. localizers at bugzilla.org now exists, and all of the localizers have been subcribed to it at their last-known email address.There ARE problems common to all/some localizers. Solutions are often poor because we solve our problems in isolation :-( For example, in Bugzilla-ja chart fonts are solved.I would like to see localizers organized in some way to discuss and solve mainstream bugzilla problems common to all/some localizations. Metabugs like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182965 are not welcome.Bug keywords like l12y do not work either, as not all bugs are filed in mainstream bugzilla.Any ideas? _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net Sat Jan 12 00:33:34 2008 From: fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net (Vitaly Fedrushkov) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:33:34 +0500 Subject: Japanese Localization of Bugzilla? References: Message-ID: <9_KdnXMNh6VjlxXanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@mozilla.org> > The domain which was hosting the Japanese localizations of Bugzilla, as > well as the domain hosting the personal home page of the maintainer, > appear to have been taken over by a domain shark. Does anyone know if > there's any work still done on a Japanese localization of Bugzilla, and > if so, where we might direct people to find it? http://bugzilla.mozilla.gr.jp/ ? Yes there IS some work, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182975#c24 for example... _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From mkanat at bugzilla.org Sat Jan 12 00:52:54 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:52:54 -0800 Subject: How long does Bugzilla take to translate? In-Reply-To: References: <8NidnZi-mLFwE1HbnZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@mozilla.org> <1188310265.4189.9.camel@reinout.rotterdam-cs.com> <1188829410.5128.32.camel@reinout.rotterdam-cs.com> Message-ID: <20080111165254.6a30f432@es-compy> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:20:44 +0500 "Vitaly Fedrushkov" wrote: > Alas gettext has little knowledge of translation problems, their > vision boils down to > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Special-cases Locale::Maketext, however, has solved it, and we will be using that with the gettext compatibility code, if we use gettext. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407752 I do understand the numeric inflection problem with Russian. :-) -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From shimono at mozilla.gr.jp Sat Jan 12 08:04:34 2008 From: shimono at mozilla.gr.jp (Atsushi Shimono) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:04:34 +0900 Subject: Japanese Localization of Bugzilla? In-Reply-To: <9_KdnXMNh6VjlxXanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@mozilla.org> References: <9_KdnXMNh6VjlxXanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@mozilla.org> Message-ID: hi, On Jan 12, 2008 9:33 AM, Vitaly Fedrushkov wrote: > > The domain which was hosting the Japanese localizations of Bugzilla, as > > well as the domain hosting the personal home page of the maintainer, > > appear to have been taken over by a domain shark. Does anyone know if > > there's any work still done on a Japanese localization of Bugzilla, and > > if so, where we might direct people to find it? > > http://bugzilla.mozilla.gr.jp/ ? Yeah, we have some kind of Japanese templates for Bugzilla 3.0. But we do so many customizes to make Bugzilla 3.0 working with Japanese (or multi-byte utf8), so they cannot be used with plain Bugzilla 3.0. # We releases this customized (l18n-ed?) Bugzilla as Bugzilla-ja, and current version is 3.0.3-ja.7. Of cource, we can release tar ball of Bugzilla 3.0.3-ja.7's templates.... regards, -- Atsushi Shimono Dept. Astronomy, Kyoto Univ (DC3) Kyoto3DII Instrument Project / Okayama 3.8m New Telescope Project mail : shimono @ kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp / gmail.com skype : shimono_univ (w/cam; @univ), shimono_mobile (note pc) _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From lpsolit at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 17:08:12 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:08:12 +0100 Subject: Bugzilla meeting next Tuesday, January 15 (11:00 PST, 19:00 GMT) Message-ID: <4788F3FC.10408@gmail.com> Hello, We have a Bugzilla meeting next Tuesday at 11:00 PST (19:00 GMT, 20:00 CET) in the #bugzilla-meeting channel on IRC. Everyone is free to attend. I also wrote the minutes of our last four meetings (September - December), which were missing: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Meetings LpSolit From mkanat at bugzilla.org Sat Jan 12 17:40:08 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:40:08 -0800 Subject: A design-approval flag? Message-ID: <20080112094008.6fcd19cf@es-compy> Often people get an r- on their patches because of a fundamental design problem. I think it would be nice to catch these things before people post a patch. I was thinking that *optionally*, people could request "design-approval?" on a bug when they had posted a comment or an attachment that described *what* they wanted to do and *how* they wanted to do it. You wouldn't *have* to set this flag, but if you got a design-approval+, that would let you know that the proposal was good and it would probably be accepted if worked upon. I would add this to Bugzilla:Developers on the wiki so people would know to set it. Does this sound like a good idea? -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From lpsolit at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 17:46:27 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:46:27 +0100 Subject: A design-approval flag? In-Reply-To: <20080112094008.6fcd19cf@es-compy> References: <20080112094008.6fcd19cf@es-compy> Message-ID: <4788FCF3.2050203@gmail.com> > I was thinking that *optionally*, people could request > "design-approval?" on a bug when they had posted a comment or an > attachment that described *what* they wanted to do and *how* they > wanted to do it. Who would be allowed to grant or deny this flag? And why a comment from us is not enough? LpSolit From vinod.s at mauj.com Mon Jan 14 11:21:13 2008 From: vinod.s at mauj.com (Vinod S [Mauj.com]) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:51:13 +0530 Subject: No subject Message-ID: how to install bugzilla-3.0.2 on WindowsXP _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From Thorsten.Claus at keytech.de Mon Jan 14 12:37:31 2008 From: Thorsten.Claus at keytech.de (Thorsten Claus) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:37:31 +0100 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A8D91D50FDF8D4E80E36F36C04D17A55687DF@ktserver.keytech.de> Download and Install from 'Apache Friends' the XAMPP Package. Download and Install the Perl Addin for XAMPP Download the Bugzilla Tar to c:\Program files\xampp\htdocs and decompress it (I have used 7Zip for this job) If you have a Proxy in your company, add the http_proxy=http://: - environment Variable Go through the Bugzilla Docs and Install the Perl- Packages for Bugzilla Check your xampp\apache\config - File, Add #"c:/programme/xampp/htdocs/bugzilla" AddHandler cgi-script .cgi Options +Indexes +ExecCGI DirectoryIndex index.cgi AllowOverride Limit To the config-File, (check your Path!) Add this to your Registry (this is for Apache to find and excecute the Perl interpreter while running Cgi files. (copy text to a textfile, rename it to *.reg and start/open this file. -------------------------------------------- Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.cgi] @="Perl" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Perl] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Perl\Shell] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Perl\Shell\Open] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Perl\Shell\Open\Command] @="\"c:\\Programme\\xampp\\Perl\\bin\\perl.exe\" -T \"%1\" %*" -------------------------------------------------- (Check your Path! The double \\ are nessesary) Excecute the Bugzilla - Setup Script (look into the Bugzilla docs!) ... It should work now Thorsten -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: developers-owner at bugzilla.org [mailto:developers-owner at bugzilla.org] Im Auftrag von Vinod S [Mauj.com] Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2008 12:21 An: dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org Betreff: how to install bugzilla-3.0.2 on WindowsXP _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla - To view or change your list settings, click here: From mkanat at bugzilla.org Mon Jan 14 13:49:07 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:49:07 -0800 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080114054907.5e1abb57@es-compy> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:51:13 +0530 "Vinod S [Mauj.com]" wrote: > how to install bugzilla-3.0.2 on WindowsXP This is the wrong place for this question. Please see: http://www.bugzilla.org/support/ -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From arthur.barrett at march-hare.com Mon Jan 14 19:52:50 2008 From: arthur.barrett at march-hare.com (Arthur Barrett) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:52:50 +1100 Subject: Multi Byte Character Support in Bugzilla 3.x (was Japanese Localization of Bugzilla?) Message-ID: <946E76E38BC1E2448B68F32FAEA2BA5858EEC4@2ksrvr01.march-hare.local> > But we do so many customizes to make Bugzilla 3.0 working > with Japanese (or multi-byte utf8), Can someone clarify what support there is in Bugzilla for UTF8 or other multibyte character sets (UTF16)? Specifically: Can you record bugs in UTF8 (in Japanese, in Korean)? (I see there is contrib::recode so I assume you can store bugs in UTF8 if you turn the utf8 parameter on)... The 3.0 release notes say 'Bugzilla now correctly supports searching and sorting in non-English languages, including multi-bytes languages such as Chinese.' Can you use UTF8 in templates? The release notes for 2.22 state 'now use UTF-8 encoding for all pages, automatically. It will also send emails in UTF-8' but Atsushi Shimono's comments suggest that support for UTF8 is limited to the ASCII 'portion'? The only open bugs I can see that would be relavent are UTF8 filenames for attachments [328628] and comments not wrapping in UTF8[388723] (and maybe [395505] one about garbled characters that is new). If someone can clarify the status and the plans that'd be very helpful thanks. Regards, Arthur From wurblzap at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 19:58:12 2008 From: wurblzap at gmail.com (Marc Schumann) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:58:12 +0100 Subject: Multi Byte Character Support in Bugzilla 3.x (was Japanese Localization of Bugzilla?) In-Reply-To: <946E76E38BC1E2448B68F32FAEA2BA5858EEC4@2ksrvr01.march-hare.local> References: <946E76E38BC1E2448B68F32FAEA2BA5858EEC4@2ksrvr01.march-hare.local> Message-ID: Arthur, 2008/1/14, Arthur Barrett : > Can someone clarify what support there is in Bugzilla for UTF8 or other > multibyte character sets (UTF16)? UTF-8 only. > Specifically: Can you record bugs in UTF8 (in Japanese, in Korean)? (I Yes. > Can you use UTF8 in templates? The release notes for 2.22 state 'now Yes. Regards Marc From justdave at bugzilla.org Tue Jan 15 09:17:09 2008 From: justdave at bugzilla.org (David Miller) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:17:09 -0500 Subject: Japanese Localization of Bugzilla? In-Reply-To: References: <9_KdnXMNh6VjlxXanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <478C7A15.3020702@bugzilla.org> Atsushi Shimono wrote on 1/12/08 3:04 AM: > But we do so many customizes to make Bugzilla 3.0 working with Japanese (or > multi-byte utf8), so they cannot be used with plain Bugzilla 3.0. What kinds of customizations? Bugzilla trunk (what'll eventually be 3.2) has had a lot of changes made recently to properly handle UTF-8 in every way possible (this is part of the reason the trunk is too unstable to do a dev release right now). Wondering if we're re-inventing the wheel... :) -- Dave Miller http://www.justdave.net/ System Administrator, Mozilla Corporation http://www.mozilla.com/ Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.bugzilla.org/ From shimono at mozilla.gr.jp Tue Jan 15 16:02:53 2008 From: shimono at mozilla.gr.jp (Atsushi Shimono) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:02:53 +0900 Subject: Japanese Localization of Bugzilla? In-Reply-To: <478C7A15.3020702@bugzilla.org> References: <9_KdnXMNh6VjlxXanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@mozilla.org> <478C7A15.3020702@bugzilla.org> Message-ID: hi, On Jan 15, 2008 6:17 PM, David Miller wrote: > > But we do so many customizes to make Bugzilla 3.0 working with Japanese (or > > multi-byte utf8), so they cannot be used with plain Bugzilla 3.0. > > What kinds of customizations? Bugzilla trunk (what'll eventually be > 3.2) has had a lot of changes made recently to properly handle UTF-8 in > every way possible (this is part of the reason the trunk is too unstable > to do a dev release right now). Wondering if we're re-inventing the > wheel... :) No, i think i'm merging the wheel to tip :p But, some (many?) of the patches are just 'Quick hack', so they could not be applied to tip.. * Graph Issues ** Bug 287684 - UTF-8 chars incorrectly displayed on the dependency graph ** Bug 287682 - UTF-8 chars incorrectly displayed on the graphic reports ** Bug 364505 - Charts not localizable * Comment Area ** Bug 388723 - Bugzilla 3.0 does not wrap Japanese comment text * e-mail issues ** Bug 405444 - FormatDouble and FormatTriple mangle multi-byte strings in email ** Bug 405453 - bugzilla should encode X-Bugzilla header contents. ** (not-filed/rejected?) - Bugmail should support other encodings (not utf-8) i think the whole list is longer than above, but i forgot :-) # the last one (for bugmail), some of webmails in Japan didn't support utf-8.. # defact-standard encoding for Japanese e-mail is 'iso-2022-jp', even now :) regards, -- Atsushi Shimono shimono at mozilla.gr.jp http://www.mozilla.gr.jp/~shimono/blog/ From cchan at mvista.com Tue Jan 15 17:40:12 2008 From: cchan at mvista.com (Clement Chan) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:40:12 -0800 Subject: Bugzilla meeting next Tuesday, January 15 (11:00 PST, 19:00 GMT) In-Reply-To: <4788F3FC.10408@gmail.com> References: <4788F3FC.10408@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1200418812.5527.13.camel@bugtest.mvista.com> Fr?d?ric, I am interested in joining the meeting. When I set up the Gaim, I am using the following settings Protocal: IRC Server: irc.mozilla.org/bugzilla-meeting Screen Name: cchan Password: [blank] Alias: Clement and the session was disconnected. Is there something missing in the configuration parameters? - Clement On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 18:08 +0100, Fr?d?ric Buclin wrote: > Hello, > > We have a Bugzilla meeting next Tuesday at 11:00 PST (19:00 GMT, 20:00 > CET) in the #bugzilla-meeting channel on IRC. Everyone is free to attend. > > I also wrote the minutes of our last four meetings (September - > December), which were missing: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Meetings > > > LpSolit > - > To view or change your list settings, click here: > From mkanat at bugzilla.org Tue Jan 15 18:45:10 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:45:10 -0800 Subject: Bugzilla meeting next Tuesday, January 15 (11:00 PST, 19:00 GMT) In-Reply-To: <1200418812.5527.13.camel@bugtest.mvista.com> References: <4788F3FC.10408@gmail.com> <1200418812.5527.13.camel@bugtest.mvista.com> Message-ID: <20080115104510.1672f429@es-compy> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:40:12 -0800 Clement Chan wrote: > Fr?d?ric, > > I am interested in joining the meeting. When I set up the Gaim, I am > using the following settings > > Protocal: IRC > Server: irc.mozilla.org/bugzilla-meeting Server is just irc.mozilla.org. Once you join, then you join the channel bugzilla-meeting. If you have trouble, you can also use our IRC gateway here: http://landfill.bugzilla.org/irc/ -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From jimderrico at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 13:37:09 2008 From: jimderrico at gmail.com (jimderrico at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:37:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: How Can I View Modified Templates Used For https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398381 Message-ID: I am trying to customize our (new) Bugzilla installation. I would like to find out what Templates were customized, and look at them, for the online Bugzilla installation https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398381 (choosing an arbitrary bug) I particularly like the fact that comments (and the Problem Description?) have links to other bug reports, and when I mouse over a link I see the status and short_desc of the linked bug. I also like the general format. Where can I see the customized template files for this site? Thanks for your help! Jim _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From lpsolit at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 21:15:09 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:15:09 +0100 Subject: The Bugzilla FAQ is now on wiki Message-ID: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> Hi all, I just removed the Bugzilla FAQ from CVS (a.k.a docs/xml/faq.xml). The official FAQ is now located on wiki at http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:FAQ This will avoid us to duplicate the information on both places, and the FAQ on wiki can more easily be updated and doesn't need to wait for a new release to be available. LpSolit From gerv at mozilla.org Fri Jan 18 12:23:24 2008 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:23:24 +0000 Subject: The Bugzilla FAQ is now on wiki In-Reply-To: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> References: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47909A3C.60706@mozilla.org> Fr?d?ric Buclin wrote: > I just removed the Bugzilla FAQ from CVS (a.k.a docs/xml/faq.xml). The > official FAQ is now located on wiki at http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:FAQ > > This will avoid us to duplicate the information on both places, and the > FAQ on wiki can more easily be updated and doesn't need to wait for a > new release to be available. But this means that FAQ is no longer tied to a particular shipping version, right? So someone needing help with an older release may find incorrect information? Gerv From lpsolit at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 12:36:23 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBCdWNsaW4=?=) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:36:23 +0100 Subject: The Bugzilla FAQ is now on wiki In-Reply-To: <47909A3C.60706@mozilla.org> References: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> <47909A3C.60706@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <47909D47.5010003@gmail.com> Gervase Markham a ?crit : > But this means that FAQ is no longer tied to a particular shipping > version, right? So someone needing help with an older release may find > incorrect information? You are right that we no longer provide FAQ per release, but the information on wiki should still be correct or usable as new features mention the release where they are available (e.g. "Since Bugzilla 2.22, you can indifferently use MySQL or PostgreSQL..."). This also offers the user of an older release a way to see since when a new feature has been available or when a common bug or limitation has been fixed. LpSolit From mkanat at bugzilla.org Fri Jan 18 14:57:32 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:57:32 -0800 Subject: The Bugzilla FAQ is now on wiki In-Reply-To: <47909D47.5010003@gmail.com> References: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> <47909A3C.60706@mozilla.org> <47909D47.5010003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080118065732.0a3899b3@es-compy> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:36:23 +0100 Fr?d?ric Buclin wrote: > You are right that we no longer provide FAQ per release, but the > information on wiki should still be correct or usable as new features > mention the release where they are available Yes. We should be sure to note what information is applicable to what version. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From bugzilla at colinogilvie.co.uk Fri Jan 18 15:29:51 2008 From: bugzilla at colinogilvie.co.uk (Colin Ogilvie) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:29:51 +0000 Subject: The Bugzilla FAQ is now on wiki In-Reply-To: <20080118065732.0a3899b3@es-compy> References: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> <47909A3C.60706@mozilla.org> <47909D47.5010003@gmail.com> <20080118065732.0a3899b3@es-compy> Message-ID: <4790C5EF.2090309@colinogilvie.co.uk> Max Kanat-Alexander wrote: > Yes. We should be sure to note what information is applicable > to what version. I'd be interested if we could get a 'Wiki to Docbook' thing so we could convert the Wiki to a docbook page for inclusion in a release, pointing to the Wiki for more up-to-date stuff. Colin From justdave at bugzilla.org Fri Jan 18 17:44:14 2008 From: justdave at bugzilla.org (David Miller) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:44:14 -0500 Subject: The Bugzilla FAQ is now on wiki In-Reply-To: <4790C5EF.2090309@colinogilvie.co.uk> References: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> <47909A3C.60706@mozilla.org> <47909D47.5010003@gmail.com> <20080118065732.0a3899b3@es-compy> <4790C5EF.2090309@colinogilvie.co.uk> Message-ID: <4790E56E.5080306@bugzilla.org> Colin Ogilvie wrote on 1/18/08 10:29 AM: > Max Kanat-Alexander wrote: >> Yes. We should be sure to note what information is applicable >> to what version. > > I'd be interested if we could get a 'Wiki to Docbook' thing so we could > convert the Wiki to a docbook page for inclusion in a release, pointing > to the Wiki for more up-to-date stuff. That's how I had originally envisioned it when we moved it to the wiki... Use the wiki as our evolving copy, and take a snapshot of it for the docs every time we release. But as long as we're religious about stating what versions an answer applies to and we don't remove questions that no longer apply to the tip until the version it does apply to is no longer supported, I'm okay with it either way. -- Dave Miller http://www.justdave.net/ System Administrator, Mozilla Corporation http://www.mozilla.com/ Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.bugzilla.org/ From justdave at bugzilla.org Fri Jan 18 17:45:14 2008 From: justdave at bugzilla.org (David Miller) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:45:14 -0500 Subject: The Bugzilla FAQ is now on wiki In-Reply-To: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> References: <478E73DD.10409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4790E5AA.90800@bugzilla.org> Fr?d?ric Buclin wrote on 1/16/08 4:15 PM: > I just removed the Bugzilla FAQ from CVS (a.k.a docs/xml/faq.xml). The > official FAQ is now located on wiki at http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:FAQ IIRC there's a lot of places that link to the version in the docs... we should probably get a redirect on the website from the old URL? -- Dave Miller http://www.justdave.net/ System Administrator, Mozilla Corporation http://www.mozilla.com/ Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.bugzilla.org/ From fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net Sat Jan 19 00:37:07 2008 From: fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net (Vitaly Fedrushkov) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:37:07 +0500 Subject: ANN: Bugzilla-ru 3.0.3 released Message-ID: <47914633.5020300@users.sourceforge.net> Good $daytime, Bugzilla-ru 3.0.3-ru-1.0 release is available at https://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=66973&sel_platform=6363 This release contains templates updated to version 3.0.3. No translation specific enhancements were made. To learn about Bugzilla in Russian, please visit http://www.mozilla-russia.org/products/bugzilla/ Regards, Vitaly. _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From lpsolit at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 14:44:45 2008 From: lpsolit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Buclin?=) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:44:45 +0100 Subject: Minutes of the Bugzilla meeting Message-ID: <47920CDD.6080801@gmail.com> Hello, Our Bugzilla meeting last Tuesday was a great success; we never had so many people attending (23!). This 3 hours long meeting was really interesting and lead to the creation of several new teams focusing on different aspects of Bugzilla, see: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Meetings:2008-01-15 http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Bugzilla:Teams Besides the already existing QA and release teams, we just set up three new teams: a User Experience team, a l10n team and we revived the documentation team. Feel free to join us! More information at the links above. Have a nice week-end Fr?d?ric 'LpSolit' Buclin From vitaly.fedrushkov at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 23:25:22 2008 From: vitaly.fedrushkov at gmail.com (Vitaly Fedrushkov) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 04:25:22 +0500 Subject: Multi Byte Character Support in Bugzilla 3.x (was Japanese Localization of Bugzilla?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47913562.4090303@users.sourceforge.net> Good $daytime, Arthur Barrett wrote: > Can you use UTF8 in templates? The release notes for 2.22 state 'now > use UTF-8 encoding for all pages, automatically. It will also send > emails in UTF-8' but Atsushi Shimono's comments suggest that support for > UTF8 is limited to the ASCII 'portion'? The only open bugs I can see > that would be relavent are UTF8 filenames for attachments [328628] and > comments not wrapping in UTF8[388723] (and maybe [395505] one about > garbled characters that is new). There are some more issues, affecting one or more locales: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=Bugzilla&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=intl > If someone can clarify the status and the plans that'd be very helpful > thanks. We go hunting for these with l10n team, formed at last Bugzilla meeting: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:L10N Regards, Vitaly. From gerv at mozilla.org Sun Jan 20 16:15:27 2008 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:15:27 +0000 Subject: Minutes of the Bugzilla meeting In-Reply-To: <47920CDD.6080801@gmail.com> References: <47920CDD.6080801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4793739F.1060305@mozilla.org> > http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Meetings:2008-01-15 says: > Cedric will ask Axel 'Pike' Hecht if the new Bugzilla l10n team can > post to the m.d.l10n mailing-list for Bugzilla stuff, or if they > should use their own mailing-list. If you have sufficient traffic and need a new newsgroup/mailing-list (e.g. mozilla.dev.apps.bugzilla.l10n), all you need to do is file a bug and we'll sort it out. Gerv From fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net Sun Jan 20 17:32:00 2008 From: fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net (Vitaly Fedrushkov) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:32:00 +0500 Subject: Minutes of the Bugzilla meeting In-Reply-To: References: <47920CDD.6080801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47938590.3010700@users.sourceforge.net> Gervase Markham wrote: >> Cedric will ask Axel 'Pike' Hecht if the new Bugzilla l10n team can >> post to the m.d.l10n mailing-list for Bugzilla stuff, or if they >> should use their own mailing-list. > If you have sufficient traffic and need a new newsgroup/mailing-list > (e.g. mozilla.dev.apps.bugzilla.l10n), all you need to do is file a bug > and we'll sort it out. Currently we plan to reuse existing localizers at bugzilla.org for internal communication. I do not feel we have to start new group for every separate long term design goal :-) I think we _should_ use m.d.a.bugzilla to announce and discuss decisions, in order to increase awareness. As of m.d.l10n -- we have little in common yet, as it comes to programming languages and toolkits. Regards, Willy. _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From tfu at redhat.com Tue Jan 22 05:16:20 2008 From: tfu at redhat.com (Tony Fu) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:16:20 +1000 Subject: some missing foreign key constraints in Bugzilla/DB/Schema.pm Message-ID: <1200978980.4065.13.camel@dhcp-64-221.bne.redhat.com> It seems that some foreign key constraints are not included in Bugzilla/DB/Schema.pm. For example, bugs.product_id: it can be product_id => {TYPE => 'INT2', NOTNULL => 1, REFERENCES => {TABLE => 'products', COLUMN => 'id'}} longdescs.bug.id: it can be bug_id => {TYPE => 'INT3', NOTNULL => 1, REFERENCES => {TABLE => 'bugs', COLUMN => 'bug_id'}} Did those missing foreign key constraints be taken out from db schema for specific reasons? Regards, Tony From mkanat at bugzilla.org Tue Jan 22 06:05:48 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:05:48 -0800 Subject: some missing foreign key constraints in Bugzilla/DB/Schema.pm In-Reply-To: <1200978980.4065.13.camel@dhcp-64-221.bne.redhat.com> References: <1200978980.4065.13.camel@dhcp-64-221.bne.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20080121220548.250e5b00@es-compy> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:16:20 +1000 Tony Fu wrote: > Did those missing foreign key constraints be taken out from db schema > for specific reasons? They weren't taken out, they just haven't been implemented yet! :-) You can help implement them if you want. The general tracking bug is here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109473 -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From silver7 at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 23:28:26 2008 From: silver7 at gmail.com (Micah Breitenstein) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:28:26 -0800 Subject: Anyone got some input regarding - my auto population of custom fields project Message-ID: <314c83b0801231528n2cb3ba68g9a199cddda3aa7e@mail.gmail.com> I've run into a problem, and could use some assistance. I'm new to Perl, and to contributing to the open source community. Please keep that in mind if and when you respond. Background Info: I have a MySQL database that contains a description of about 100 different test systems. Goal: Implement a method for users logging a new bug to auto populate the contents of predefined custom fields based upon a supplied systemID. So far I've implemented the following changes to the file create.html.tmpl: 1. Modified the contents of the template create.html.tmpl to display custom fields in a two column format. 2. Added a button titled "Fetch System Info" 3. Implemented a JavaScript button "Clear System Info" to clear all defined custom fields. Now that my user interface modifications are complete I'm now working on the problem of populating the custom fields based upon the user's specified systemID. Remember I am not querying the Bugzilla database. I am querying a separate MySQL database maintained by our System Admin. I've written a Perl script that allows me to connect to the MySQL hardware lab database and perform a query. However, I am confused as to how to implement the last portion of my project. Should I be fetching and returning a complete list of systems and corresponding info. If so how do I get the results of my query to be available and usable via the template? My Perl script is as follows: #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use DBI; my $hwl_dbh = DBI->connect( 'dbi:mysql:hwl', 'XXX', 'XXX', { RaiseError => 1, AutoCommit => 0 } ) || die "Database connection not made: $DBI::errstr"; #my $hwl_sql = qq{ SELECT SysID, SysName, Model FROM `BB-Systems`}; my $hwl_sth = $hwl_dbh->prepare( "SELECT SysID, SysName, Model FROM `BB-Systems`" ); $hwl_sth->execute(); my( $sysId, $sysName, $sysModel ); $hwl_sth->bind_columns( undef, \$sysId, \$sysName, \$sysModel ); my @test; while( $hwl_sth->fetch() ) { print "$sysId, $sysName, $sysModel\n"; } $hwl_sth->finish(); $hwl_dbh->disconnect(); From bugzilla at glob.com.au Wed Jan 23 23:48:49 2008 From: bugzilla at glob.com.au (byron) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:48:49 +0900 Subject: Anyone got some input regarding - my auto population of custom fields project In-Reply-To: <314c83b0801231528n2cb3ba68g9a199cddda3aa7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <314c83b0801231528n2cb3ba68g9a199cddda3aa7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080123234849.GA7676@bur.st> > I've written a Perl script that allows me to connect to the MySQL > hardware lab database and perform a query. However, I am confused as > to how to implement the last portion of my project. > > Should I be fetching and returning a complete list of systems and > corresponding info. If so how do I get the results of my query to be > available and usable via the template? use ajax. ensure that your cgi returns xml. once you have the systemID, fire off an ajax request to your cgi. when the result comes back, populate the other fields. -byron begin-base64 644 signature.gif R0lGODlhbQAHAIAAAABPo////ywAAAAAbQAHAAACfAxuGAnch+Bibkn7FL1p XgVl4Ig1jjlZRoqybgun2Cur5uOunq7u/Ipq7WIyIc7XG9JquEgumPzdlhTf h0O83kDJaXEm8mRHwXKJy5sac7qYOpT+gtv0n+0ujQOfdqh16caWt0foBViH N1PRMXimiLUGt3ElVimlgbllWAAAOw== From mkanat at bugzilla.org Sat Jan 26 08:07:50 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:07:50 -0800 Subject: Working Toward HTML 5 Message-ID: <20080126000750.57c26ef1@es-compy> Now that there's an HTML 5 draft standard at the W3C, I'd at least like to start thinking about it in relation to Bugzilla. Lots of browsers actually already implement HTML 5 features--it's just that now they're actually part of the standard. For anybody curious about what's changed in HTML 5, see: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/ The reason I'm saying this is that historically, we've been opposed to using any HTML that's "not in the standard." Well, now I'm saying that if it's in the HTML 5 standard, and browsers actually support it, then it's OK with me. (Other reviewers are free to chime in on this, of course.) Of course, using any of the new tags or APIs that browsers *don't* actually support yet wouldn't be allowed. And if there's a difference between the way an element is supposed to be used in HTML 4 and the way it's supposed to be used in HTML 5, I'd like to start slowly moving to the "way it's supposed to be in HTML 5." So it's not a huge change, just a preparation for the future, really. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From mkanat at bugzilla.org Sun Jan 27 19:29:50 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:29:50 -0800 Subject: Our New show_bug Edit Form UI! Message-ID: <20080127112950.5e4960f4@es-compy> Thanks to the hard word of pyrzak, we now have a new UI for the show_bug edit form! You can see it here: https://landfill.bugzilla.org/bugzilla-tip/show_bug.cgi?id=10 It is, by my calculations, approximately 18 million times better than any other UI we've had in the past for that page. :-) Comments and suggestions are welcome! -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From mkanat at bugzilla.org Sun Jan 27 19:54:26 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:54:26 -0800 Subject: Freezing! Message-ID: <20080127115426.289cd06f@es-compy> Okay, so all the 3.1.3 blockers are resolved, and as we talked about at the meeting, we're now going to freeze. Here is how this freeze will work: From today (Sunday, January 27) until Sunday, February 3, we are in a "soft freeze." That means any bug that currently (as of today) has a patch on it can still go in to the trunk, but otherwise the trunk is frozen, and no enhancements may be checked in. This is sort of a week for things to "settle out" before we completely freeze and branch. On Monday, February 4, I will create a branch called BUGZILLA-3_2-BRANCH. Any enhancement must have "blocking3.2+" on it in order to be checked into that branch--otherwise only bug fixes will be taken. Approvers can, of course, grant exceptions--if you want to know in advance whether or not your patch will be accepted into the 3.2 branch, ask an approver (justdave, myk, LpSolit, or myself). This is different than our past freezes in that we will be branching instantly when we "hard freeze" on February 4, so the trunk will stay open for development. I don't necessarily expect this to make 3.2 any faster of a release, but I do expect it to help out a lot with the speed of our 4.0 release. Once we branch, general development focus should still be on 3.2, but enhancements that aren't appropriate on a frozen branch can still be checked in to the trunk, allowing us to keep up development momentum. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From justdave at bugzilla.org Sun Jan 27 20:59:00 2008 From: justdave at bugzilla.org (David Miller) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:59:00 -0500 Subject: Bugzilla vs Trac on cover of Software Test & Performance Mag Message-ID: <479CF094.20205@bugzilla.org> Software Test & Performance Magazine (the same place we got the Tester's Choice awards from a couple months ago) has an article comparing Bugzilla and Trac as the cover story of their February 2008 issue. http://stpmag.com/ -- Dave Miller http://www.justdave.net/ System Administrator, Mozilla Corporation http://www.mozilla.com/ Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.bugzilla.org/ From gerv at mozilla.org Sun Jan 27 22:40:31 2008 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:40:31 +0000 Subject: Bugzilla vs Trac on cover of Software Test & Performance Mag In-Reply-To: <479CF094.20205@bugzilla.org> References: <479CF094.20205@bugzilla.org> Message-ID: <479D085F.60104@mozilla.org> David Miller wrote: > Software Test & Performance Magazine (the same place we got the Tester's > Choice awards from a couple months ago) has an article comparing > Bugzilla and Trac as the cover story of their February 2008 issue. > > http://stpmag.com/ The issue is available for download from the site as a PDF. Here's a quote from the category in which we beat them (they beat us on Windows install): Security is job #1. According to Bug- zilla?s maintainers: ?The current develop- er community is very much concerned with the security of your site and your Bugzilla data. As such, we make every attempt to seal up any security holes as soon as possible after they are found.? As such, a list of the security advi- sories issued with each release that included security-related fixes is provid- ed on the Bugzilla homepage. ?This is almost every version we?ve ever released since 2.10,? read a statement, indicative of the recent attention being paid to security matters. When I asked the Trac develop- ment team about its attention to secu- rity, I got this response: ?I cannot give a complete answer, but what I know is that we actively look at code we have from multiple angles to see if there?s a potential abuse.? I am concerned about such a lax position toward secu- rity. In our case, lax security was a deal breaker. And because of the attention to security paid by Bugzilla developers of late, the project?s longevity also played a major part; they?ve had more time to fix security flaws. Looks like people appreciate our approach to security :-) Gerv From fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net Mon Jan 28 00:22:12 2008 From: fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net (Vitaly Fedrushkov) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:22:12 +0500 Subject: Known Bugzilla localization bugs and problems Message-ID: Good $daytime, I am about to summarize known problems in Bugzilla localization: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:L10N:Problems Please feel free to comment, add more problems, references and/or solutions. Thanks in advance. Regards, Vitaly. _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From kevin.benton at amd.com Mon Jan 28 17:05:48 2008 From: kevin.benton at amd.com (Benton, Kevin) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:05:48 -0800 Subject: Our New show_bug Edit Form UI! In-Reply-To: <20080127112950.5e4960f4@es-compy> References: <20080127112950.5e4960f4@es-compy> Message-ID: Max, There are two places where users must "uncheck" the box when they don't want to be added to the CC list when in edit mode from this form. I see that this was checked in so I'll file a bug. I like the improvements, however, I actually like the proposed screen much better for two reasons - it uses what appears to be a tabbed view to the bug and offers the "most critical" pieces of information at a glance. Kevin Kevin Benton MySQL DBA #5739 Senior Software Developer CAD Global Infrastructure Flow Services Advanced Micro Devices 2950 E Harmony Rd Fort Collins, CO 80528 The opinions stated in this communication do not necessarily reflect the view of Advanced Micro Devices and have not been reviewed by management. This communication may contain sensitive and/or confidential and/or proprietary information. Distribution of such information is strictly prohibited without prior consent of Advanced Micro Devices. This communication is for the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender, then destroy any remaining copies of this communication. > -----Original Message----- > From: developers-owner at bugzilla.org > [mailto:developers-owner at bugzilla.org] On Behalf Of Max > Kanat-Alexander > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:30 PM > To: developers at bugzilla.org > Subject: Our New show_bug Edit Form UI! > > > Thanks to the hard word of pyrzak, we now have a new UI for the > show_bug edit form! You can see it here: > > https://landfill.bugzilla.org/bugzilla-tip/show_bug.cgi?id=10 > > It is, by my calculations, approximately 18 million times > better than any other UI we've had in the past for that page. :-) > > Comments and suggestions are welcome! > > -Max > -- > http://www.everythingsolved.com/ > Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. > - > To view or change your list settings, click here: > > > > From mkanat at bugzilla.org Mon Jan 28 23:49:38 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:49:38 -0800 Subject: Our New show_bug Edit Form UI! In-Reply-To: References: <20080127112950.5e4960f4@es-compy> Message-ID: <20080128154938.07fe3983@es-compy> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:05:48 -0800 "Benton, Kevin" wrote: > There are two places where users must "uncheck" the box when they > don't want to be added to the CC list when in edit mode from this > form. I see that this was checked in so I'll file a bug. Two places? Oh, you're right. :-) We can fix that. > I like the improvements, however, I actually like the proposed screen > much better for two reasons - it uses what appears to be a tabbed view > to the bug and offers the "most critical" pieces of information at a > glance. Eh, what proposed screen? -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From tfu at redhat.com Tue Jan 29 06:03:35 2008 From: tfu at redhat.com (Tony Fu) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:03:35 +1000 Subject: Self-introduction: Tony Fu Message-ID: <1201586615.3471.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> == Full legal name == Tony Fu == Your IRC nick on irc.mozilla.org == tfu == City, Country == Brisbane, Queensland Australia == Profession or Student status == Software Engineer == Company, School, or other affiliation == Red Hat, Inc. http://www.redhat.com https://bugzilla.redhat.com == What do you want to help out with? == I am one of software engineers to develop and maintain a customized Bugzilla v2.18 system, which is using as our internal development bug tracking system. I have participated in a project to migrate our customized Bugzilla system from PostgreSQL based system to a MySQL based system and my works included data migration, sql query optimization, foreign keys implementation and other database related issues. Currently, I am in a team to work on a Bugzilla upgrade project and I hope my fellow team members and I can contribute our code to Bugzilla community. == Historical qualifications == Although I have been working in IT for a pretty long time, open source project development is relatively new for me. In the past one year, I involved in developing and maintaining our internal Bugzilla system and I have got familiar with Bugzilla system, especially database related stuff. I look forward to working with Bugzilla community and making my contribution in the future. Tony Fu Red Hat, Inc. - From mkanat at bugzilla.org Tue Jan 29 06:27:57 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:27:57 -0800 Subject: Self-introduction: Tony Fu In-Reply-To: <1201586615.3471.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1201586615.3471.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080128222757.3e8717da@es-compy> Hey Tony! :-) Welcome to the Bugzilla Project! :-) Feel free to grab any of us on IRC if you have questions. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jan 30 11:09:02 2008 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:09:02 +0000 Subject: Known Bugzilla localization bugs and problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A05ACE.6080208@mozilla.org> Vitaly Fedrushkov wrote: > Good $daytime, > > I am about to summarize known problems in Bugzilla localization: > > http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:L10N:Problems This is an interesting list, but it's not clear what it's for. By that I mean, it could be for several things, and it's not obvious which one(s). Is it: - A list of bugs the l10n team would like to fix; - A document telling localisers how best to deal with particular l10n issues they will encounter; - Gathering of support for making a proposal to radically change the way we do l10n ? Gerv From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jan 30 15:46:30 2008 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:46:30 +0000 Subject: Working Toward HTML 5 In-Reply-To: <20080126000750.57c26ef1@es-compy> References: <20080126000750.57c26ef1@es-compy> Message-ID: <47A09BD6.8020302@mozilla.org> Max Kanat-Alexander wrote: > Now that there's an HTML 5 draft standard at the W3C, I'd at > least like to start thinking about it in relation to Bugzilla. > > Lots of browsers actually already implement HTML 5 > features--it's just that now they're actually part of the standard. Well... It is a draft standard. And, at least as I understand it, this is not the W3C "we're waiting until there's two competing implementations before it's official" type of "draft", it's the "no, it's really definitely not done yet, anything may change" sort of draft. > The reason I'm saying this is that historically, we've been > opposed to using any HTML that's "not in the standard." Well, we've been using XHR, haven't we? That's not in any standard. Having said what I said above, it's fairly clear in some parts of the spec which way the wind is blowing. I'm not objecting to us jumping the gun slightly, as long as we are aware we are doing it. Gerv From mkanat at bugzilla.org Wed Jan 30 20:58:25 2008 From: mkanat at bugzilla.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:58:25 -0800 Subject: Working Toward HTML 5 In-Reply-To: <47A09BD6.8020302@mozilla.org> References: <20080126000750.57c26ef1@es-compy> <47A09BD6.8020302@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <20080130125825.39e62d85@es-compy> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:46:30 +0000 Gervase Markham wrote: > Well... It is a draft standard. And, at least as I understand it, > this is not the W3C "we're waiting until there's two competing > implementations before it's official" type of "draft", it's the "no, > it's really definitely not done yet, anything may change" sort of > draft. Okay, fair 'nuf. > Well, we've been using XHR, haven't we? That's not in any standard. No, we haven't, yet. But we also weren't holding JS to any standard other than "works in all browsers that we support." > Having said what I said above, it's fairly clear in some parts of the > spec which way the wind is blowing. I'm not objecting to us jumping > the gun slightly, as long as we are aware we are doing it. Yeah, that sounds like a good attitude to me, too. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net Wed Jan 30 23:27:52 2008 From: fedrushkov at users.sourceforge.net (Vitaly Fedrushkov) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:27:52 +0500 Subject: Known Bugzilla localization bugs and problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A107F8.8060601@users.sourceforge.net> Good $daytime, Gervase Markham wrote: > Vitaly Fedrushkov wrote: > This is an interesting list, but it's not clear what it's for. By that I > mean, it could be for several things, and it's not obvious which one(s). > Is it: > - A document telling localisers how best to deal with particular l10n > issues they will encounter; This was first intention: increase awareness, share knowledge and reduce effort duplication. Localizers teams are different in their skills and cunning -- some still fight in isolation, while others may already have a cure. > - A list of bugs the l10n team would like to fix; Sure, this was my second intention (by priority). But true fix for l12y bug SHOULD work for all languages and requires specific testing. See bug 394516 as an example what can happen with obvious solution when it comes to l10n nightmare :-) > - Gathering of support for making a proposal to radically change the way > we do l10n Not before we gather many samples and notice some (negative?) tendency. Bugzilla l10n team is only 2 weeks old -- way too young to get radical :-) Regards, Willy. _______________________________________________ dev-apps-bugzilla mailing list dev-apps-bugzilla at lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-bugzilla From michael.j.tosh at lmco.com Mon Jan 28 13:52:58 2008 From: michael.j.tosh at lmco.com (Tosh, Michael J) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:52:58 -0500 Subject: Known localization problems... Message-ID: Looking over the wiki page at: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:L10N:Problems For "Grammatical gender" issue, isn't that already dealt with using $terms.ABug? $terms.ABug="El Bug" or $terms.ABug="La Peticion"? Michael J Tosh Lockheed Martin, TSS WJHTC Bldg 316 2nd Fl S074, x5-5831 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: