UI module owner

[Gervase Markham]

Dennis Melentyev wrote:
> Well, it's mostly role-dependent. What about putting some role
> schemes/UI/WorkFlow/etc in?

Now we're thinking along the right lines :-)

>> Why is basic search "too minimalistic"? And for whom? I assume you don't
>> mean "because it doesn't have enough widgets"; so do you mean "because
>> it doesn't find what you want some of the time"?
> It's more like "I'd like to specify also Open/closed flag, user and some
> date-related stuff".

You can specify an open/closed flag on the basic search.

Date-related stuff seems to me to be well into the realm of advanced
queries. After all, you can get simple date-related stuff for filing
date just by searching by bug number. And, assuming we fix up the
sorting on the results page, you could sort by last-changed-date to get
recently-changed bugs too.

> Yes, of cause it's doable via AdvSearch page. But each time you open it,
> you have to re-read it twice or so to remember what all that controls
> do.

Are the labels not clear enough that one reading is enough? :-)

> Good alternative would be expandable panels like in show_bug with button
> mentioned already here.

I do think expandable panels is worth looking at on that page. But we
would need to study people's queries to see which fields to group onto
particular panels.

>>>> - Is that page supposed to be used by newbies?
>>> No. But they do often need somewhat advanced, but not over-helming
>>> pages.
>> What evidence do you have that people who have graduated from the simple
>> search form (and therefore already have some familiarity with Bugzilla)
>> still find the complicated one hard to understand?
> It has too many controls and no place to concentrate the sight at.
> Current layout offer more details moving from <hr> to <hr>, with
> main/primary controls at the top of the page.
> The biggest problem is: one have to pay too much attention. (And,
> better, need internals understanding to some degree)

Which parts need understanding of internals? How would you change them
to not require such understanding?

(Boolean charts require some internals understanding, but I think that's
OK, because you couldn't have them stay that powerful if you removed
that requirement.)

>>> Another user role is "Customer The Great" often under-qualified to
>>> fill-out all controls, not patient and not willing to learn this "ugly
>>> pages". But their reports are gold for us.
>> Why are you pointing your customers at the advanced search page? What do
>> you expect them to accomplish there?
> They are working with us on bugs related to their products/components.

But don't you use groups to make sure that bugs in their
products/components are the only ones they can see anyway?

> Yes, but adapting workflow to corporate standards should be much easier
> than it is now.

I agree with that. Evidence from the newsgroup suggests that customising
the workflow (statuses and resolutions) is an extremely common request,
and currently to do it I believe you have to hack Bugzilla in a way
which makes it hard to upgrade.

Gerv