Minutes of our last Bugzilla meeting (August 8, 2006)

Benton, Kevin kevin.benton at amd.com
Mon Aug 14 15:53:10 UTC 2006

> Frédéric Buclin wrote:
> > * Oracle informed us that they were still interested in having Bugzilla
> > 3.0 working with an Oracle DB. They plan to assign two Oracle developers
> > on it.
> >
> > * Supporting Oracle means we need an Oracle installation on landfill
> > (for reviews and testing patches). But we need some Oracle patches to
> > install it on RHEL 4, and these patches are not free. justdave will have
> > a look if it's possible to get them anyway.

I would think that since Oracle is willing to commit two developers to it, that they'd be willing to give us what we need to make it work on RHEL 4.

> So I guess the question this raises is: are the Bugzilla developers as a
> group free software people or open source people? That is to say, do we
> do Bugzilla as Free/Open Source because we believe that's the way
> software should be ("free software"), or because pragmatically it's what
> works ("open source")?
> If we are free software people, why exactly are we helping a proprietary
> database vendor sell more copies of its product? After all, they won't
> even make their OS patches free software, thereby asking us to use
> non-free software to help them.
> Even if we are "open source" pragmatists, I don't think anyone's ever
> argued that Bugzilla _needs_ Oracle. The biggest Bugzilla in the world
> runs pretty well on MySQL, and I know some people who think PostgreSQL
> is even better. ;-)
> Another pragmatic point: in the past, features which have been
> implemented but which none of the development team use have turned out
> to be maintenance albatrosses. Say Oracle get Bugzilla 3.0 working with
> their database, then the developers get reassigned. Then a few Bugzilla
> users start using the Oracle support. Who's responsible for keeping it
> working?
> We got PostgreSQL support because core developers wanted to use
> Postgres. Are there any who want to use Oracle? (And why?)

It seems that having a poll on the bugzilla.org website would be appropriate here.  Are we chasing a needle in the haystack or would this be a significant part of our userbase?  It seems that the poll could look something like this:

What database(s) does your company use?
[_] DB2
[_] Microsoft SQL
[_] MySQL
[_] Oracle
[_] PostgreSQL
[_] Other [___________________________]

Kevin Benton
Perl/Bugzilla Developer/Administrator, Perforce SCM Administrator
AMD - ECSD Software Validation and Tools
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