Release schedule plans
Vlad Dascalu
vladd at bugzilla.org
Tue Jan 11 23:36:17 UTC 2005
Christopher Hicks wrote:
> So if we're working on optimizing things, lets include examining the
> effectiveness of your communication. You attempted to communicate
> with superfulous noise and emotion and it proved to be ineffective yet
> you're continuing to try to explain what really matters seemingly
> oblivious to valid constructive criticism. The book isn't relevant
> here and I haven't seen anybody quoting any verse yet. Saying the
> right things was fine, nobody is discouraging you from saying the
> things that need to be said because we disagree with you. But if its
> worth saying these things isn't it worth saying them in the mildest
> way possible that also happens to be the least prone to
> misinterpretation, confusion and the ensuing "off-topic" discussion?
> You seem to be frustrated by the response your posts received, but
> this could have been avoided if you were willing to engage in moderate
> self-editing.
I'm not frustrated, I'm very pleased on how the evaluation thing went.
It seemed to make people re-evaluate things that took for granted,
including the communication process. The first good effects are already
here.
> Promoting recipient editing in the Internet world is really rather
> ridiculous. Which uses less energy - the sender editing things until
> its worthy to be shared with the group or every recipient in the group
> having the filter out the superfulous garbage added by the sender?
> One of IETF credos is "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative
> in what you send" and applies rather well to human communications.
It's not about 80-20, it's about building a community tollerant to
emotion-like flames. Trimming down senders makes the network vulnerable
to the first non-compliant sender :-). Building up responses in every
receiver makes the network invulnerable :-) The important thing is to
learn how to receive a message, because in this way we'll end up
invulnerable to every sender. Learning senders how to behave is still
important, but it doesn't make the network bullet-proof to the first
non-compliant sender.
> While it might not be pleasant to find that you've been shown to be
> rather off base in a public way I'm confidant that noone involved did
> so out of disrespect. If you weren't respected it wouldn't have been
> worth the trouble to explain what you seem to be so resilient to
> accepting.
Once again, try to understand that I'm not looking for respect or public
appreciation. My goal was to improve the development process and I
partially managed that. Once 2.18 is released rest assure that I'll
continue my evaluation process. That reminds me - a lot of the
discussion went in private on reviewers@, and you might miss critical
information in understanding the background of the discussion.
> If you find yourself interpreting any of this as discouraging dissent,
> discussion, or honesty you're missing my point.
You're missing my point. :-) But I guess that is fine. We're all free
and stuff after all :-)
Vlad.
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