From cmadhav at hotmail.com Sun Jun 1 22:11:28 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:11:28 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla Message-ID: Hello All, I am trying to produce Aging Reports/Metrics in our Bugzilla installation for our project. Our client is concerned about turn around time (bug fix time) on P1s & P2s on our project. I tried for a couple of hours today and could not figure out an easy and clean way of doing such queries every week in our Bugzilla installation. For example : I was trying to generate a report of All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any date in the query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct querying on "Open date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy way to do it... Has anyone tried something like this ? Let me know. Regards, Madhava Challa, PMP Director (Delivery), Satyam Computer Services, Onsite at Health Care Authority, State of Washington, Cell : 203-545-2642 _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From justdave at syndicomm.com Sun Jun 1 22:17:06 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:17:06 -0400 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/1/2003 10:11 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. > > The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) > > The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. > > I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any date in the > query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct querying on "Open > date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy way to do > it... In the "Bug Changes" section, "[creation date]" changed between "7 days ago" and "now". (it's not a well-known fact that you can use relative dates there, but you can :) -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From cmadhav at hotmail.com Sun Jun 1 22:36:14 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:36:14 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla Message-ID: Thanks David. For a prompt reply... Yes, I am aware about the technique you are talking about. I use that technique on other fields. But in our Bugzilla Installation, I do not see a "Creation Date" field in the drop down list. Is that list box configurable ? If so, what can my Bugzilla administrator do to enable "Creation Date" entry to figure in the drop down list ? Here is the screen shot and you can understand what I am referring to. Tha >From: David Miller >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:17:06 -0400 > >On 6/1/2003 10:11 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. > > > > The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) > > > > The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. > > > > I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any date in >the > > query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct querying on >"Open > > date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy way to >do > > it... > >In the "Bug Changes" section, "[creation date]" changed between "7 days >ago" and "now". (it's not a well-known fact that you can use relative >dates there, but you can :) >-- >Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System >http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: a Zarro Boog.doc Type: application/msword Size: 88064 bytes Desc: not available URL: From justdave at syndicomm.com Sun Jun 1 22:48:14 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:48:14 -0400 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/1/2003 10:36 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > But in our Bugzilla Installation, I do not see a "Creation Date" field in > the drop down list. Is that list box configurable ? If so, what can my > Bugzilla administrator do to enable "Creation Date" entry to figure in the > drop down list ? It's actually called "[Bug Creation]", including the brackets around it. It's the very top item in that list box. That field has been listed there for as long as I can remember, so if you don't have it, you either have a VERY old Bugzilla or someone manually removed it from your install. > Here is the screen shot and you can understand what I am referring to. Your "screen shot" is a word document. That's extremely limiting your audience. :) GIF, JPG, or PNG would have been a better choice. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From cmadhav at hotmail.com Sun Jun 1 22:54:50 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:54:50 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla Message-ID: David, I do see the [Bug Creation] field in the list box. But I ran into problems when I used "7 days ago" as a search criteria using the [Bug Creation] field. Here is what I did: 1. Selected [Bug Creation] from the list box. 2. Entered "7 days ago" in the second field available under the "were changed between" label. I left the first date field empty 3. When I do the search, I get an error back as follows: "The string 7 days ago is not a legal date" Please help.. >From: David Miller >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:48:14 -0400 > >On 6/1/2003 10:36 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > But in our Bugzilla Installation, I do not see a "Creation Date" field >in > > the drop down list. Is that list box configurable ? If so, what can my > > Bugzilla administrator do to enable "Creation Date" entry to figure in >the > > drop down list ? > >It's actually called "[Bug Creation]", including the brackets around it. >It's the very top item in that list box. That field has been listed there >for as long as I can remember, so if you don't have it, you either have a >VERY old Bugzilla or someone manually removed it from your install. > > > Here is the screen shot and you can understand what I am referring to. > >Your "screen shot" is a word document. That's extremely limiting your >audience. :) GIF, JPG, or PNG would have been a better choice. >-- >Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System >http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From cmadhav at hotmail.com Sun Jun 1 23:19:52 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:19:52 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla Message-ID: David, I entered First Field as 2002-01-01 (a date way in the past before our Bugzilla was installed) and Second Field as : 7 days ago after selecting "[Bug Creation]" from the list box. I still get the error: "The string 7 days ago is not a legal date" Do you think this feature is a recent addition in Bugzilla ? Our bugzilla was installed in December 2002. Thanks! >From: David Miller >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:48:14 -0400 > >On 6/1/2003 10:36 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > But in our Bugzilla Installation, I do not see a "Creation Date" field >in > > the drop down list. Is that list box configurable ? If so, what can my > > Bugzilla administrator do to enable "Creation Date" entry to figure in >the > > drop down list ? > >It's actually called "[Bug Creation]", including the brackets around it. >It's the very top item in that list box. That field has been listed there >for as long as I can remember, so if you don't have it, you either have a >VERY old Bugzilla or someone manually removed it from your install. > > > Here is the screen shot and you can understand what I am referring to. > >Your "screen shot" is a word document. That's extremely limiting your >audience. :) GIF, JPG, or PNG would have been a better choice. >-- >Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System >http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From justdave at syndicomm.com Mon Jun 2 00:51:23 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:51:23 -0400 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/1/2003 11:19 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > David, > > I entered > > First Field as 2002-01-01 (a date way in the past before our Bugzilla was > installed) and > > Second Field as : 7 days ago Hmm, I had the syntax wrong on it. Try "-7d" instead of 7 days ago spelled out. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From cmadhav at hotmail.com Mon Jun 2 01:38:52 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 01:38:52 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla Message-ID: Thanks David. I tried -7d in the end date field. I left start date field as 2002-01-01 and I got the error: The string -7d is not a legal date I tried enclosing within quotes as well as without quotes and in both cases I got the same error.. We are very getting close now. Go for it David :-) Regards, >From: David Miller >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:51:23 -0400 > >On 6/1/2003 11:19 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > David, > > > > I entered > > > > First Field as 2002-01-01 (a date way in the past before our Bugzilla >was > > installed) and > > > > Second Field as : 7 days ago > >Hmm, I had the syntax wrong on it. Try "-7d" instead of 7 days ago spelled >out. >-- >Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System >http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From jason at pyeron.com Mon Jun 2 02:48:03 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Which bugzilla version are you using? on the tip I use #d and in version 2.16.2 I use # ex: 2.16.2: 7 Now 2.17.4: 7d Now jason pyeron On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Madhava Challa wrote: > Thanks David. > > I tried -7d in the end date field. I left start date field as 2002-01-01 > > and I got the error: > > The string -7d is not a legal date > > I tried enclosing within quotes as well as without quotes and in both cases > I got the same error.. > > We are very getting close now. Go for it David :-) > > Regards, > > >From: David Miller > >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org > >To: developers at bugzilla.org > >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla > >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:51:23 -0400 > > > >On 6/1/2003 11:19 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > > > David, > > > > > > I entered > > > > > > First Field as 2002-01-01 (a date way in the past before our Bugzilla > >was > > > installed) and > > > > > > Second Field as : 7 days ago > > > >Hmm, I had the syntax wrong on it. Try "-7d" instead of 7 days ago spelled > >out. > >-- > >Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System > >http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ > >---- > >To view or change your list settings, click here: > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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From justdave at syndicomm.com Mon Jun 2 03:52:05 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:52:05 -0400 Subject: bugzilla cvs tag issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/1/2003 11:48 PM -0400, Jason Pyeron wrote: > this might be sorta off topic, but > > I have a bugzilla instalation which is under the Bugzilla_Stable tag > > how do I switch it to the tip? cvs -q up -AdP the -A will clear the tag so it updates to HEAD. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From preed at sigkill.com Mon Jun 2 03:57:07 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:57:07 -0700 Subject: bugzilla cvs tag issue In-Reply-To: ; from jason@pyeron.com on Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 11:48:13PM -0400 References: Message-ID: <20030601205707.B10568@sigkill.com> On 01 Jun 2003 at 23:48:13, Jason Pyeron moved bits on my disk to say: > I have a bugzilla instalation which is under the Bugzilla_Stable tag > > how do I switch it to the tip? cvs update -A in your root bugzilla directory will get you the absolute latest. If you want the latest development release, cvs update -r BUGZILLA-2_17_4 You should look at the documentation at www.cvshome.org for more info on how to use CVS. Later, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ J. 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If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From cmadhav at hotmail.com Mon Jun 2 07:09:23 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:09:23 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... Message-ID: David & Jason, 1. I am using Bugzilla version : 2.16.1 2. I want to generate a report of P1s pending OVER 1 WEEK. and NOT P1s created during last 1 week. 3. After selecting [Bug_creation] in the list box, I gave the following criteria: .... Start Date : 2002-01-01 (Older than the first bug in our installation) End Date : I tried several different combinations... -7d ----> did'nt work... as well as #7d -----> did'nt work... as well as Now -7d ----> did'nt work... Please help... Regards, >Which bugzilla version are you using? >on the tip I use #d and in version 2.16.2 I use # >ex: 2.16.2: 7 Now 2.17.4: 7d Now >jason pyeron
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>From: David Miller >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:17:06 -0400 > >On 6/1/2003 10:11 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. > > > > The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) > > > > The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. > > > > I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any date in >the > > query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct querying on >"Open > > date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy way to >do > > it... > >In the "Bug Changes" section, "[creation date]" changed between "7 days >ago" and "now". (it's not a well-known fact that you can use relative >dates there, but you can :) >-- >Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System >http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From cmadhav at hotmail.com Mon Jun 2 07:39:43 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:39:43 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... Message-ID: I also tried 2002-01-01 and 7 as well as 2002-01-01 and -7 Please help... >From: "Madhava Challa" >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... >Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:09:23 +0000 > >David & Jason, > >1. I am using Bugzilla version : 2.16.1 > >2. I want to generate a report of P1s pending OVER 1 WEEK. > >and NOT P1s created during last 1 week. > >3. After selecting [Bug_creation] in the list box, I gave the following >criteria: .... > >Start Date : 2002-01-01 (Older than the first bug in our installation) > >End Date : I tried several different combinations... > >-7d ----> did'nt work... > >as well as > >#7d -----> did'nt work... > >as well as > >Now -7d ----> did'nt work... > >Please help... > >Regards, > >>Which bugzilla version are you using? >>on the tip I use #d and in version 2.16.2 I use # > >>ex: 2.16.2: 7 Now > 2.17.4: 7d Now > >>jason pyeron > >
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> > > > >>From: David Miller >>Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >>To: developers at bugzilla.org >>Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla >>Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:17:06 -0400 >> >>On 6/1/2003 10:11 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: >> >> > All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. >> > >> > The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) >> > >> > The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. >> > >> > I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any date >>in the >> > query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct querying on >>"Open >> > date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy way to >>do >> > it... >> >>In the "Bug Changes" section, "[creation date]" changed between "7 days >>ago" and "now". (it's not a well-known fact that you can use relative >>dates there, but you can :) >>-- >>Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System >>http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ >>---- >>To view or change your list settings, click here: >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From jason at pyeron.com Mon Jun 2 07:40:05 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: the days are relative to Now and it is 7 not #7d ( i ment that as a format ) so you want to do a query like start date , start date + 7? On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Madhava Challa wrote: David & Jason, 1. I am using Bugzilla version : 2.16.1 2. I want to generate a report of P1s pending OVER 1 WEEK. and NOT P1s created during last 1 week. 3. After selecting [Bug_creation] in the list box, I gave the following criteria: .... Start Date : 2002-01-01 (Older than the first bug in our installation) End Date : I tried several different combinations... -7d ----> did'nt work... as well as #7d -----> did'nt work... as well as Now -7d ----> did'nt work... Please help... Regards, >Which bugzilla version are you using? >on the tip I use #d and in version 2.16.2 I use # >ex: 2.16.2: 7 Now 2.17.4: 7d Now >jason pyeron
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>From: David Miller >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:17:06 -0400 > >On 6/1/2003 10:11 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. > > > > The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) > > > > The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. > > > > I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any date in >the > > query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct querying on >"Open > > date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy way to >do > > it... > >In the "Bug Changes" section, "[creation date]" changed between "7 days >ago" and "now". (it's not a well-known fact that you can use relative >dates there, but you can :) >-- >Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System >http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ---- To view or change your list settings, click here: -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From jason at pyeron.com Mon Jun 2 07:50:58 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please note that the relative dates in the search faeture are there so one does not have to know the value of the current time. You can only enter an absolute date or a date relative to the current time. I am unable to test 2.16.1 but have tested this on 2.16.3 (the stable release) does "> 2002-01-01 and 7" give a date format error? or just a list from 2002-01-01 to 7 days ago? BUT this does not seem to be at all related to your origianl question. On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Madhava Challa wrote: > I also tried > > 2002-01-01 and 7 > > as well as > > 2002-01-01 and -7 > > Please help... > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From cmadhav at hotmail.com Mon Jun 2 07:53:28 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:53:28 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... Message-ID: Jason, I am not sure what you mean by "start date" in my situation... Let me repeat - I am interesting in looking at the aging of pending bugs... specifically :- P1 bugs pending over 7 days... The start date that I used was just a bogus date -- earliest date that I could use in my installation. End date I did try 7. so, when I tried : Start Date : 2002-01-01 End Date : 7 I do get Pendingt P1 bugs, but the system included even the P1s that were created in the last 1 week.. But, I want the system to pick up P1s that were created over 1 week ago and which are still pending. It should not have given me the P1s that were created in the last 1 week... So, If you understood what I am saying, please try out your query in your own installation before making a suggestion... Thanks!
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>From: Jason Pyeron >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:40:05 -0400 (EDT) > > >the days are relative to Now > >and it is 7 not #7d ( i ment that as a format ) > >so you want to do a query like start date , start date + 7? > >On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Madhava Challa wrote: > >David & Jason, > >1. I am using Bugzilla version : 2.16.1 > >2. I want to generate a report of P1s pending OVER 1 WEEK. > >and NOT P1s created during last 1 week. > >3. After selecting [Bug_creation] in the list box, I gave the following >criteria: .... > >Start Date : 2002-01-01 (Older than the first bug in our installation) > >End Date : I tried several different combinations... > >-7d ----> did'nt work... > >as well as > >#7d -----> did'nt work... > >as well as > >Now -7d ----> did'nt work... > >Please help... > >Regards, > > >Which bugzilla version are you using? > >on the tip I use #d and in version 2.16.2 I use # > > >ex: 2.16.2: 7 Now > 2.17.4: 7d Now > > >jason pyeron > >
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> > > > > >From: David Miller > >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org > >To: developers at bugzilla.org > >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla > >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:17:06 -0400 > > > >On 6/1/2003 10:11 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > > > All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. > > > > > > The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) > > > > > > The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. > > > > > > I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any date >in > >the > > > query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct querying on > >"Open > > > date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy way >to > >do > > > it... > > > >In the "Bug Changes" section, "[creation date]" changed between "7 days > >ago" and "now". (it's not a well-known fact that you can use relative > >dates there, but you can :) > >-- > >Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System > >http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ > >---- > >To view or change your list settings, click here: > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > > > >-- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >- - >- Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - >- Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - >- +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - >- +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - >- - >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain >privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you >have received it in error, purge the message from your system and >notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you >is prohibited. > > > >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From jason at pyeron.com Mon Jun 2 08:04:44 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 04:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: the earliest possible date ever is Jan 1, 1970 use this as your start date. for your end date you want 7 days ago this will return all bugs which are older than 7 days. filter this for P1, P2, etc. Rememeber this is the CURRENT status of the bug. If bug 42 was crerated on Jan 1, 1999 as NEW:P1 and then on March 1, 1999 it was CLOSED it will not show up as a NEW bug of P1 which is older than 7 days since it is NOW CLOSED. I have a lot of code to prep tonight , if you want to call my cell that is fine, otherwise the emails will have to wait until this evening. Jason Pyeron On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Madhava Challa wrote: > Jason, > > I am not sure what you mean by "start date" in my situation... > > Let me repeat - I am interesting in looking at the aging of pending bugs... > > specifically :- P1 bugs pending over 7 days... > > The start date that I used was just a bogus date -- earliest date that I > could use in my installation. End date I did try 7. > > so, when I tried : > > Start Date : 2002-01-01 > End Date : 7 > > I do get Pendingt P1 bugs, but the system included even the P1s that were > created in the last 1 week.. > > But, I want the system to pick up P1s that were created over 1 week ago and > which are still pending. It should not have given me the P1s that were > created in the last 1 week... > > So, If you understood what I am saying, please try out your query in your > own installation before making a suggestion... > > Thanks! > >
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> > > > > >From: Jason Pyeron > >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org > >To: developers at bugzilla.org > >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... > >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:40:05 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > >the days are relative to Now > > > >and it is 7 not #7d ( i ment that as a format ) > > > >so you want to do a query like start date , start date + 7? > > > >On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > >David & Jason, > > > >1. I am using Bugzilla version : 2.16.1 > > > >2. I want to generate a report of P1s pending OVER 1 WEEK. > > > >and NOT P1s created during last 1 week. > > > >3. After selecting [Bug_creation] in the list box, I gave the following > >criteria: .... > > > >Start Date : 2002-01-01 (Older than the first bug in our installation) > > > >End Date : I tried several different combinations... > > > >-7d ----> did'nt work... > > > >as well as > > > >#7d -----> did'nt work... > > > >as well as > > > >Now -7d ----> did'nt work... > > > >Please help... > > > >Regards, > > > > >Which bugzilla version are you using? > > >on the tip I use #d and in version 2.16.2 I use # > > > > >ex: 2.16.2: 7 Now > > 2.17.4: 7d Now > > > > >jason pyeron > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > >From: David Miller > > >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org > > >To: developers at bugzilla.org > > >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla > > >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:17:06 -0400 > > > > > >On 6/1/2003 10:11 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > > > > > All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. > > > > > > > > The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) > > > > > > > > The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. > > > > > > > > I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any date > >in > > >the > > > > query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct querying on > > >"Open > > > > date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy way > >to > > >do > > > > it... > > > > > >In the "Bug Changes" section, "[creation date]" changed between "7 days > > >ago" and "now". 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Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From cmadhav at hotmail.com Mon Jun 2 08:16:22 2003 From: cmadhav at hotmail.com (Madhava Challa) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:16:22 +0000 Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... Message-ID: I understand the CURRENT status stuff... Yes, I am not getting those CLOSED one's which anyway I do not want to be icluded... As per you, When I use 1970-01-01 and 7 I should get everything that was created over 1 week and which is CURRENTLY still open... But I get those as well as more... I am getting even the one's that got created in the last 1 or 2 days even... I can call you on your cell tomorrow, if you do not mind.... Please send me your cell #.. appreciate all your help... Regards, >From: Jason Pyeron >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org >To: developers at bugzilla.org >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 04:04:44 -0400 (EDT) > > >the earliest possible date ever is Jan 1, 1970 use this as your start >date. >for your end date you want 7 days ago > >this will return all bugs which are older than 7 days. > >filter this for P1, P2, etc. > >Rememeber this is the CURRENT status of the bug. > >If bug 42 was crerated on Jan 1, 1999 as NEW:P1 and then on March 1, 1999 >it was CLOSED it will not show up as a NEW bug of P1 which is older than 7 >days since it is NOW CLOSED. > >I have a lot of code to prep tonight , if you want to call my cell that is >fine, otherwise the emails will have to wait until this evening. > >Jason Pyeron > >On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > I am not sure what you mean by "start date" in my situation... > > > > Let me repeat - I am interesting in looking at the aging of pending >bugs... > > > > specifically :- P1 bugs pending over 7 days... > > > > The start date that I used was just a bogus date -- earliest date that I > > could use in my installation. End date I did try 7. > > > > so, when I tried : > > > > Start Date : 2002-01-01 > > End Date : 7 > > > > I do get Pendingt P1 bugs, but the system included even the P1s that >were > > created in the last 1 week.. > > > > But, I want the system to pick up P1s that were created over 1 week ago >and > > which are still pending. It should not have given me the P1s that were > > created in the last 1 week... > > > > So, If you understood what I am saying, please try out your query in >your > > own installation before making a suggestion... > > > > Thanks! > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > >From: Jason Pyeron > > >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org > > >To: developers at bugzilla.org > > >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla --- Attention David & Jason.... > > >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:40:05 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > > > > >the days are relative to Now > > > > > >and it is 7 not #7d ( i ment that as a format ) > > > > > >so you want to do a query like start date , start date + 7? > > > > > >On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > > > >David & Jason, > > > > > >1. I am using Bugzilla version : 2.16.1 > > > > > >2. I want to generate a report of P1s pending OVER 1 WEEK. > > > > > >and NOT P1s created during last 1 week. > > > > > >3. After selecting [Bug_creation] in the list box, I gave the following > > >criteria: .... > > > > > >Start Date : 2002-01-01 (Older than the first bug in our installation) > > > > > >End Date : I tried several different combinations... > > > > > >-7d ----> did'nt work... > > > > > >as well as > > > > > >#7d -----> did'nt work... > > > > > >as well as > > > > > >Now -7d ----> did'nt work... > > > > > >Please help... > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > >Which bugzilla version are you using? > > > >on the tip I use #d and in version 2.16.2 I use # > > > > > > >ex: 2.16.2: 7 Now > > > 2.17.4: 7d Now > > > > > > >jason pyeron > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: David Miller > > > >Reply-To: developers at bugzilla.org > > > >To: developers at bugzilla.org > > > >Subject: Re: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla > > > >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:17:06 -0400 > > > > > > > >On 6/1/2003 10:11 PM +0000, Madhava Challa wrote: > > > > > > > > > All Open P1 bugs pending for more than 7 days. > > > > > > > > > > The defn of OPEN = (UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED & RE-OPENED) > > > > > > > > > > The defn of Pending = Pending since bug creation. > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to do it in a manner where I am not hard-coding any >date > > >in > > > >the > > > > > query. Unfortunately, Bugzy does'nt seem to support direct >querying on > > > >"Open > > > > > date" (meaning creation date). Or I could not figure out an easy >way > > >to > > > >do > > > > > it... > > > > > > > >In the "Bug Changes" section, "[creation date]" changed between "7 >days > > > >ago" and "now". 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If you >have received it in error, purge the message from your system and >notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you >is prohibited. > > > >---- >To view or change your list settings, click here: > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From jason at pyeron.com Mon Jun 2 09:43:50 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 05:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ageing Reports in Bugzilla In-Reply-To: Message-ID: there appears to be someting screwy with their instalation. I grabbed a copy of 2.16.1 from cvs I could not simulate the problem in that copy, but when using their system the relative dates acted up. Now was defined as 2003-06-02 22:38 query of 1, Now returned ~15 bugs this list appeared correct query of 2, 1 returned zarro bugs query of 5, 1 ... query of 29, 1 ... query of 2003-05-01, 2003-06-01 returned 500+ bugs seemed correct query of 2003-05-10, 2003-06-01 returned 300+ bugs seemed correct query of 1970-01-01, 7 returned 250+ bugs which included bugs from today, etc. no idea on how to file a bug on this one. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From olivier.lambert at francetelecom.com Mon Jun 2 16:15:17 2003 From: olivier.lambert at francetelecom.com (LAMBERT Olivier URS TOULOUSE) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:15:17 +0200 Subject: l10n (fr_FR) : A few strategical tips & questions... Message-ID: <20030602161517.GB21573@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> Good Monday everybody... I had just a few questions about the best way to lead Bugzilla localisation : * Accent : keeping utf-8 files with french writing (like "?l?phant"), or HTML writing (like éléphant)... pro : utf-8 is easier to read and mantain. cons : I don't think that gives us a w3c compliant code... * Corrections & modifications.. : What is the best way to allow other people to re-read my translations and, if needed, improve them ? * Project page : isn't there a way to group this translation effort with other ones, so as to avoid building a new project on sourceforge (or savanah, or whatever you like) ? I hope i won't upset anybody with my heretic questions... :) ceituna. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tobias.burnus at physik.fu-berlin.de Mon Jun 2 16:24:36 2003 From: tobias.burnus at physik.fu-berlin.de (Tobias Burnus) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:24:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: l10n (fr_FR) : A few strategical tips & questions... In-Reply-To: <20030602161517.GB21573@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> Message-ID: Hi, On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, LAMBERT Olivier URS TOULOUSE wrote: > * Accent : keeping utf-8 files with french writing (like "?l?phant"), or > HTML writing (like éléphant)... > pro : utf-8 is easier to read and mantain. > cons : I don't think that gives us a w3c compliant code... Hmm, I have actually not completely made up my mind (for bugzilla-de) what to use. The problem with named entities (é etc.) is that this fails with some 'FILTER html' commands. On the other hand, deciding whether ISO-8859-1 or UTF8 (or ISO-8859-15) is best, is not an easy one. Fortunally recode utf8..latin1 works quite nicely. Therefore one should probably use UTF8 (and tell them how to convert to Latin1). Note that sidebar.xul does not allow named entities, there you _have_ to use UTF8. This is related to this bug: "Allow administrator to set charset encoding for pages and email" http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126266 And to "use CGI.pm for header output" http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126266#c2 > * Corrections & modifications.. : What is the best way to allow other > people to re-read my translations and, if needed, improve them ? Create e.g. a SourceForge project. > * Project page : isn't there a way to group this translation effort with > other ones, so as to avoid building a new project on sourceforge (or > savanah, or whatever you like) ? I think it is probably better to create an extra project. Tobias, who should spendsome time to update bugzilla-de... PS: Are you translating 2.16.x or 2.17 (there are pros and cons for doing either)? From caseyg at chsamerica.com Mon Jun 2 20:10:21 2003 From: caseyg at chsamerica.com (Casey Gregoire) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:10:21 -0400 Subject: Another question on Reports Message-ID: At our office we would like to be able to make a report (preferably the tabular report) of bugs that have been opened this month and week, and the bugs that have been closed this month and week. I have been playing with the query to try to do this, but I am not sure if this it can do what I need. (When we define open, we mean bugs that have been entered, and bugs that have been reopened. And closed we mean as Resolved, Fixed, and Closed.) The problem I have is that I can't assume the bug was created this week since the way we use the system bugs can be reopened often, and should be in the report. And that adds to the problem of bugs that can be reopened. If these queries don't do that trick does any one have suggestions on how to best go about adding this to Bugzilla? I don't want to muck up the code. The queries we do are: For open bugs: None of the other query options above is set, except for the product we want the report on Status changed after [date to start from] (first of month for monthly reports, first of week for weekly reports) And Status changed to NEW or Status changed to REOPENED or Status changed to UNCONFIRMED or Status changed to ASSIGNED AND Status is equal to NEW or Status is equal to REOPENED or Status is equal to UNCONFIRMED or Status is equal to ASSIGNED For Closed bugs: None of the other query options above are set, except for the product we want the report on Status changed after [date to start from] (first of month for monthly reports, first of week for weekly reports) And Status changed to CLOSED Status changed to RESOLVED or Status changed to VERIFIED or And Status is equal to CLOSED or Status is equal to RESOLVED or Status is equal to VERIFIED or Would this give us all of the bugs for the given product opened/created from the start date, and all of the bugs CLOSED/RESOLVED in the given time period? I am not sure how the Boolean charts code works and don't want to be wrong. Does the above Boolean statement get treated as (Op1 and opt2 or opt3 or opt4 and opt5 opt6 opt7) or is it treated as (Op1 and (opt2 or opt3 or opt4) and (opt5 opt6 opt7)) I think the code does it the second way, and I think it would have to for my query to get what I want. Thank you, Casey Gregoire Programmer CHS of America 100 1st Ave S. Suite 601 St. Petersburg, FL 33701 Phone - (727) 824-0800 ext 1236 Every great achievement was once impossible. -- Anonymous I'd like to get started on time, if we can, inasmuch as we're late already. -- Larry Gelbart Nothing is accomplished without passion. -- My Fortune Cookie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jason at pyeron.com Mon Jun 2 20:16:51 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Another question on Reports In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What is the mailing list for administration & users? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From bbaetz at acm.org Mon Jun 2 21:28:31 2003 From: bbaetz at acm.org (Bradley Baetz) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:28:31 +1000 Subject: l10n (fr_FR) : A few strategical tips & questions... In-Reply-To: <20030602161517.GB21573@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> References: <20030602161517.GB21573@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> Message-ID: <20030602212831.GA1344@mango.home> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 06:15:17PM +0200, LAMBERT Olivier URS TOULOUSE wrote: > Good Monday everybody... > > I had just a few questions about the best way to lead Bugzilla > localisation : > > * Accent : keeping utf-8 files with french writing (like "?l?phant"), or > HTML writing (like éléphant)... > pro : utf-8 is easier to read and mantain. > cons : I don't think that gives us a w3c compliant code... Use UTF8. In CVS, its now a one liner to add the content-type header. he issue is converting old content, which is why it hasn't been done yet. Most terminals/editors now do UTF8. The filters may need a bit of work, mind you. You can use teh &xxx; stuff, but you have to be sure that its not used anywhere which is filtered. I suspect that it will be more confusing to do this multiple ways, so you may as well stick to UTF8 everywhere for consistency. Bradley From gerv at mozilla.org Mon Jun 2 21:53:57 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:53:57 +0100 Subject: Another question on Reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EDBC775.1050903@mozilla.org> Jason Pyeron wrote: > What is the mailing list for administration & users? mozilla-webtools at mozilla.org (see http://www.mozilla.org/community.html for subscribe info) or the newsgroup netscape.public.mozilla.webtools on news.mozilla.org . Gerv From caseyg at chsamerica.com Tue Jun 3 13:50:21 2003 From: caseyg at chsamerica.com (Casey Gregoire) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:50:21 -0400 Subject: Another question on Reports Message-ID: Well I was asking to know whether or not I needed to add code or not. I found what I needed though, which was the ability to search creation date in the Boolean charts section. Is there any reason why there is no definition for creation_ts in the default definitions in the fielddefs table? Thanks, Casey Gregoire -----Original Message----- From: Gervase Markham [mailto:gerv at mozilla.org] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 5:54 PM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: Another question on Reports Jason Pyeron wrote: > What is the mailing list for administration & users? mozilla-webtools at mozilla.org (see http://www.mozilla.org/community.html for subscribe info) or the newsgroup netscape.public.mozilla.webtools on news.mozilla.org . Gerv ---- To view or change your list settings, click here: From jason at pyeron.com Tue Jun 3 18:22:24 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: is there a web interface to the cvs repository? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From daa at rm.incc.net Tue Jun 3 18:33:28 2003 From: daa at rm.incc.net (David Avery) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:33:28 -0600 Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: ; from jason@pyeron.com on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:22:24PM -0400 References: Message-ID: <20030603123328.A8223@daa.dyndns.org> On 03-Jun-2003, Jason Pyeron wrote: > is there a web interface to the cvs repository? http://bonsai.mozilla.org/rview.cgi?cvsroot=/cvsroot&dir=mozilla/webtools/bugzilla&module=MozillaTinderboxAll dave` From Habers at pbworld.com Tue Jun 3 18:38:20 2003 From: Habers at pbworld.com (Habers, Mark) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:38:20 -0400 Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? Message-ID: <2BAAFCCCE018A447877157AFCED973445DE961@nycmrmt2.corp.pbwan.net> This might be better... they have a couple web clients. http://www.cvshome.org/dev/addons.html Mark Habers QA Manager Parsons Brinckerhoff, IT -----Original Message----- From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jason at pyeron.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:22 PM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: bugzilla webbased cvs? is there a web interface to the cvs repository? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. 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Message-ID: <2BAAFCCCE018A447877157AFCED973445DE960@nycmrmt2.corp.pbwan.net> These guys make one with a GNU license for Win32. http://www.wincvs.org/ Mark Habers QA Manager Parsons Brinckerhoff, IT. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jason at pyeron.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:22 PM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: bugzilla webbased cvs? is there a web interface to the cvs repository? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ---- To view or change your list settings, click here: From jason at pyeron.com Tue Jun 3 18:48:37 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: <2BAAFCCCE018A447877157AFCED973445DE961@nycmrmt2.corp.pbwan.net> Message-ID: Looking for something like ViewCVS, will try to set it up today (public) supposedly it does not require repository access. On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Habers, Mark wrote: This might be better... they have a couple web clients. http://www.cvshome.org/dev/addons.html Mark Habers QA Manager Parsons Brinckerhoff, IT -----Original Message----- From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jason at pyeron.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:22 PM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: bugzilla webbased cvs? is there a web interface to the cvs repository? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From preed at sigkill.com Tue Jun 3 19:02:59 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:02:59 -0700 Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: ; from jason@pyeron.com on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:48:37PM -0400 References: <2BAAFCCCE018A447877157AFCED973445DE961@nycmrmt2.corp.pbwan.net> Message-ID: <20030603120259.B1956@sigkill.com> On 03 Jun 2003 at 14:48:37, Jason Pyeron moved bits on my disk to say: > Looking for something like ViewCVS, will try to set it up today (public) What's wrong with Bonsai? Or lxr? Later, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ J. Paul Reed -- 0xDF8708F8 || preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin I use PGP; you should use PGP too... if only to piss off John Ashcroft From jason at pyeron.com Tue Jun 3 19:04:55 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: <2BAAFCCCE018A447877157AFCED973445DE960@nycmrmt2.corp.pbwan.net> Message-ID: on, I use the cmd line cvs I was inquiring about web cvs so I can point and click rdiffs quickly. On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Habers, Mark wrote: > These guys make one with a GNU license for Win32. > http://www.wincvs.org/ > > > > > Mark Habers > QA Manager > Parsons Brinckerhoff, IT. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jason at pyeron.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:22 PM > To: developers at bugzilla.org > Subject: Re: bugzilla webbased cvs? > > is there a web interface to the cvs repository? > > > > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From jimw at bugopolis.com Tue Jun 3 19:16:40 2003 From: jimw at bugopolis.com (Jim Walters) Date: 03 Jun 2003 12:16:40 -0700 Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1054667800.14879.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> This is the only somewhat semi-full-access I've run across: http://sandweb.sourceforge.net/ For viewers, this one is pretty and supposedly has pluggable authentication (via the underlying php stack) http://www.horde.org/chora/ On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 12:04, Jason Pyeron wrote: > on, I use the cmd line cvs > > I was inquiring about web cvs so I can point and click rdiffs quickly. > > > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Habers, Mark wrote: > > > These guys make one with a GNU license for Win32. > > http://www.wincvs.org/ > > > > > > > > > > Mark Habers > > QA Manager > > Parsons Brinckerhoff, IT. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jason at pyeron.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:22 PM > > To: developers at bugzilla.org > > Subject: Re: bugzilla webbased cvs? > > > > is there a web interface to the cvs repository? > > > > > > > > __________________________ Jim Walters Director of Technology Bugopolis, Inc. phone: +1 206 447 8315 email: jimw at bugopolis.com web: http://www.bugopolis.com _________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Jason, CVSWEB is the simplest one I know of: http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~zeller/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ There is also a Windows variant here: http://support.march-hare.com/cvswebnt/cvsweb.cgi/ Regards, Arthur Barrett -----Original Message----- From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jason at pyeron.com] Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2003 4:22 AM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: bugzilla webbased cvs? is there a web interface to the cvs repository? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ---- To view or change your list settings, click here: From chicks at chicks.net Tue Jun 3 23:06:08 2003 From: chicks at chicks.net (Christopher Hicks) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: <20030603120259.B1956@sigkill.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, J. Paul Reed wrote: > On 03 Jun 2003 at 14:48:37, Jason Pyeron moved bits on my disk to say: > > Looking for something like ViewCVS, will try to set it up today (public) > What's wrong with Bonsai? Somebody posted the right bonsai link earlier. > Or lxr? I looked and couldn't find it in there. Can you post a URL? -- The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment. -Robert Maynard Hutchins, educator (1899-1977) From preed at sigkill.com Wed Jun 4 02:34:37 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:34:37 -0700 Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: ; from chicks@chicks.net on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:06:08PM -0400 References: <20030603120259.B1956@sigkill.com> Message-ID: <20030603193437.A1979@sigkill.com> On 03 Jun 2003 at 19:06:08, Christopher Hicks moved bits on my disk to say: > I looked and couldn't find it in there. Can you post a URL? Bonsai uses LXR, but: http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/webtools/bugzilla/ Later, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ J. Paul Reed -- 0xDF8708F8 || preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin I use PGP; you should use PGP too... if only to piss off John Ashcroft From olivier.lambert at francetelecom.com Wed Jun 4 13:39:23 2003 From: olivier.lambert at francetelecom.com (LAMBERT Olivier URS TOULOUSE) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:39:23 -0400 Subject: l10n (fr_FR) : First Release (ver 2.16.3-rc1) Message-ID: Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (bugzilla_fr.2.16.3.rc1.bz2). Warning: (bugzilla_fr.2.16.3.rc1.bz2.sig). Hello, I've finished translating Bugzilla version 2.16.3 I've not created a savanah/sourceforge/whatever you want project yet... Here comes the first Releace Candidate of french translation. Still need to add extra documentation, such as how to install it (cf official doc), and so on... If you find parts where I Forgot a translation, ugly parts or misspelled words, feel free too feedback at ceituna at ardilla.asso.fr Olivier PS : the reason why I haven't open a project yet, is that Firewall rules are not very permissive at work (mail and few web-sites), and personnal Internet access is not ready yet. From olivier.lambert at francetelecom.com Wed Jun 4 14:14:35 2003 From: olivier.lambert at francetelecom.com (LAMBERT Olivier URS TOULOUSE) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:14:35 +0200 Subject: l10n (fr_FR) : First Release (ver 2.16.3-rc1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030604141435.GA32503@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (bugzilla_fr.2.16.3.rc1.bz2). Le Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:39:23AM -0400, Olivier (ceituna) LAMBERT prit son clavier pour nous commenter que : > Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed > Warning: (bugzilla_fr.2.16.3.rc1.bz2). > Warning: (bugzilla_fr.2.16.3.rc1.bz2.sig). Mail system considered gpg signature as a virus... Here is the file without signature... Olivier From justdave at syndicomm.com Wed Jun 4 14:36:09 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:36:09 -0400 Subject: l10n (fr_FR) : First Release (ver 2.16.3-rc1) In-Reply-To: <20030604141435.GA32503@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> References: <20030604141435.GA32503@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> Message-ID: On 6/4/2003 4:14 PM +0200, LAMBERT Olivier URS TOULOUSE wrote: > Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed > Warning: (bugzilla_fr.2.16.3.rc1.bz2). > > Le Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:39:23AM -0400, Olivier (ceituna) LAMBERT prit >son clavier pour nous commenter que : >> Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed >> Warning: (bugzilla_fr.2.16.3.rc1.bz2). >> Warning: (bugzilla_fr.2.16.3.rc1.bz2.sig). > > Mail system considered gpg signature as a virus... > > Here is the file without signature... Actually, the mailing list doesn't support attachments over 40K either. (It's configured not to anyway. If you don't have anywhere you can post it, you could mail it to me directly and I can post it somewhere for you. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From cbendell at point2.com Wed Jun 4 14:13:12 2003 From: cbendell at point2.com (Colin Bendell) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 08:13:12 -0600 Subject: data directory Message-ID: <85339FA608200E43BA1A364F09C337D60130C7BE@bruno.point2.com> I was thinking more along the lines of the data mining statistics should be db driven. /colin > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Paul Reed [mailto:preed at sigkill.com] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:45 PM > To: developers at bugzilla.org > Subject: Re: data directory > > On 30 May 2003 at 10:51:13, Colin Bendell moved bits on my disk to say: > > > In fact, all the 'data' elements (including most of the configuration) > > should be database driven, thus creating a clearer separation of content > > and presentation. > > Most of the stuff in the data directory isn't "presented" to the user, so > I > don't see that argument. > > That, and using a scheme like 'versioncache' and 'params' allows us to > exploit features unique to perl to speed stuff up. There *may* be a bug on > moving all that into the database, but... I couldn't find it... which > wouldn't surprise me at all. > > Later, > Paul > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > J. Paul Reed -- 0xDF8708F8 || preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed > To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin > > I use PGP; you should use PGP too... if only to piss off John Ashcroft > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > From ferhatayaz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 15:30:43 2003 From: ferhatayaz at yahoo.com (Ferhat Ayaz) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 08:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: C API for Bugzilla Message-ID: <20030604153043.20283.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, what do you think about a C API for Bugzilla?? Shouldn't this be created as a project? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From preed at sigkill.com Wed Jun 4 15:42:16 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 08:42:16 -0700 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030604153043.20283.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com>; from ferhatayaz@yahoo.com on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:30:43AM -0700 References: <20030604153043.20283.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030604084216.A18228@sigkill.com> On 04 Jun 2003 at 08:30:43, Ferhat Ayaz moved bits on my disk to say: > what do you think about a C API for Bugzilla?? > Shouldn't this be created as a project? Why? Later, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ J. Paul Reed -- 0xDF8708F8 || preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin I use PGP; you should use PGP too... if only to piss off John Ashcroft From bugreport at peshkin.net Wed Jun 4 16:17:53 2003 From: bugreport at peshkin.net (Joel Peshkin) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 09:17:53 -0700 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030604153043.20283.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030604153043.20283.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3EDE1BB1.1000503@peshkin.net> Ferhat Ayaz wrote: >Hi, > what do you think about a C API for Bugzilla?? > Shouldn't this be created as a project? > > What do you think such an API should do? From ferhatayaz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 17:10:46 2003 From: ferhatayaz at yahoo.com (Ferhat Ayaz) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <3EDE1BB1.1000503@peshkin.net> Message-ID: <20030604171046.17260.qmail@web41202.mail.yahoo.com> maybe a simple API to use for a GUI frontend with GTK+ or to embed Bugzilla to existing applications. Hmmm ... what about a CORBA server !? There are many companies using bugzilla. Why not? ;)) We can write a simple function set over the mysql api to support the followings: + connect (login) + create bug + query bug + edit bug This can be a way to write customized "bugzilla client" Thanks for your opinions > Ferhat Ayaz wrote: >>Hi, >> what do you think about a C API for Bugzilla?? >> Shouldn't this be created as a project? >> >> > What do you think such an API should do? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From preed at sigkill.com Wed Jun 4 18:09:17 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:09:17 -0700 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030604171046.17260.qmail@web41202.mail.yahoo.com>; from ferhatayaz@yahoo.com on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:10:46AM -0700 References: <3EDE1BB1.1000503@peshkin.net> <20030604171046.17260.qmail@web41202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030604110917.A19461@sigkill.com> On 04 Jun 2003 at 10:10:46, Ferhat Ayaz moved bits on my disk to say: > This can be a way to write customized "bugzilla client" > > Thanks for your opinions Well, I don't see why everyone wants to reinvent the wheel, but in discussions in IRC today about how you'd do this, you could write a C API that uses curl to contact Bugzila via our HTTP API. Justdave suggested that... I didn't know we had an HTTP API. Go figure. Later, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ J. Paul Reed -- 0xDF8708F8 || preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin I use PGP; you should use PGP too... if only to piss off John Ashcroft From chicks at chicks.net Wed Jun 4 17:43:15 2003 From: chicks at chicks.net (Christopher Hicks) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030604110917.A19461@sigkill.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, J. Paul Reed wrote: > Justdave suggested that... I didn't know we had an HTTP API. > Go figure. Would anyone have enough pointers on where such a thing is buried that a competent Perl person could try to write some docs for it so there'd be less "go figuring"? Or is he just talking about they query form returning XML. That is useful, but I wasn't aware of anything else having an persistant and automation friendly interface. If there's more than this I'd love to know. :) -- The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment. -Robert Maynard Hutchins, educator (1899-1977) From kniht at us.ibm.com Wed Jun 4 20:02:29 2003 From: kniht at us.ibm.com (Jon Tollefson) Date: 04 Jun 2003 15:02:29 -0500 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1054756949.32696.45.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 12:43, Christopher Hicks wrote: > Or is he just talking about they query form returning > XML. That is useful, but I wasn't aware of anything else having an > persistant and automation friendly interface. If there's more than this > I'd love to know. :) I have written a perl script that uses curl to call the bugzilla web cgi scripts. It provides a few commands such as query to return bug lists in csv or xml, an update command that can append comments to a bug, and status, login, and logout commands. It saves you from having to remember all the parameters to pass to curl to make it work. If anyone was interested I would be willing to share it. Jon From ferhatayaz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 20:49:33 2003 From: ferhatayaz at yahoo.com (Ferhat Ayaz) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <1054756949.32696.45.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20030604204933.26508.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Jon i think that curl could do that work. Would it make sense to port and enhance your perl script to c? --- Jon Tollefson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 12:43, Christopher Hicks > wrote: > > Or is he just talking about they query form > returning > > XML. That is useful, but I wasn't aware of > anything else having an > > persistant and automation friendly interface. If > there's more than this > > I'd love to know. :) > > I have written a perl script that uses curl to call > the bugzilla web cgi > scripts. It provides a few commands such as query > to return bug lists > in csv or xml, an update command that can append > comments to a bug, and > status, login, and logout commands. It saves you > from having to > remember all the parameters to pass to curl to make > it work. > > If anyone was interested I would be willing to share > it. > > Jon > > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From dberlin at dberlin.org Wed Jun 4 21:28:14 2003 From: dberlin at dberlin.org (Daniel Berlin) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:28:14 -0400 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030604110917.A19461@sigkill.com> Message-ID: <730146B6-96D3-11D7-9AB1-000A95A34564@dberlin.org> On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 02:09 PM, J. Paul Reed wrote: > On 04 Jun 2003 at 10:10:46, Ferhat Ayaz moved bits on my disk to say: > >> This can be a way to write customized "bugzilla client" >> >> Thanks for your opinions > > Well, I don't see why everyone wants to reinvent the wheel, but in > discussions in IRC today about how you'd do this, you could write a C > API > that uses curl to contact Bugzila via our HTTP API. > Redhat's bugzilla has an XMLRPC API that is trivial to add to an existing Bugzilla (It consists of Bugzilla/RPC.pm, and xmlrpc.cgi). You'd be better off with that than trying to use our HTTP API directly. > From kniht at us.ibm.com Wed Jun 4 21:54:27 2003 From: kniht at us.ibm.com (Jon Tollefson) Date: 04 Jun 2003 16:54:27 -0500 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030604204933.26508.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030604204933.26508.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1054763667.32681.83.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 15:49, Ferhat Ayaz wrote: > Hi Jon > i think that curl could do that work. Would it make > sense to port and enhance your perl script to c? > I don't see any advantage to using c. I think perl is just as or more capable then c in calling curl and manipulating the output. One part that is not very fun is to do error checking. You have to munge through the html returned to see if an operation was successful or not and extract the error message. If you have control over the server end it sounds like the XMLRPC API mentioned by dberlin would be a better way to go. Jon From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jun 4 22:29:16 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:29:16 +0100 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030604110917.A19461@sigkill.com> References: <3EDE1BB1.1000503@peshkin.net> <20030604171046.17260.qmail@web41202.mail.yahoo.com> <20030604110917.A19461@sigkill.com> Message-ID: <3EDE72BC.2080702@mozilla.org> J. Paul Reed wrote: > Well, I don't see why everyone wants to reinvent the wheel, but in > discussions in IRC today about how you'd do this, you could write a C API > that uses curl to contact Bugzila via our HTTP API. > > Justdave suggested that... I didn't know we had an HTTP API. Well, you submit HTTP requests to Bugzilla, and get data back. Sounds like an API to me. Oh, you meant a _stable_ API with easily-parseable data? Not sure about that. ;-) Gerv From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jun 4 22:29:52 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:29:52 +0100 Subject: data directory In-Reply-To: <85339FA608200E43BA1A364F09C337D60130C7BE@bruno.point2.com> References: <85339FA608200E43BA1A364F09C337D60130C7BE@bruno.point2.com> Message-ID: <3EDE72E0.4010801@mozilla.org> Colin Bendell wrote: > I was thinking more along the lines of the data mining statistics should > be db driven. See bug 16009. Gerv From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jun 4 22:35:53 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:35:53 +0100 Subject: Another question on Reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EDE7449.4030405@mozilla.org> Casey Gregoire wrote: > Well I was asking to know whether or not I needed to add code or not. I > found what I needed though, which was the ability to search creation date in > the Boolean charts section. Is there any reason why there is no definition > for creation_ts in the default definitions in the fielddefs table? Not that I know of. Seems like a bug to me... Gerv From preed at sigkill.com Wed Jun 4 22:48:32 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:48:32 -0700 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <3EDE72BC.2080702@mozilla.org>; from gerv@mozilla.org on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:29:16PM +0100 References: <3EDE1BB1.1000503@peshkin.net> <20030604171046.17260.qmail@web41202.mail.yahoo.com> <20030604110917.A19461@sigkill.com> <3EDE72BC.2080702@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <20030604154832.A20697@sigkill.com> On 04 Jun 2003 at 23:29:16, Gervase Markham moved bits on my disk to say: > Well, you submit HTTP requests to Bugzilla, and get data back. Sounds > like an API to me. > > Oh, you meant a _stable_ API with easily-parseable data? Not sure about > that. ;-) Oh, we have that. You just need to use the proper client library. I believe I heard of one... someone said it's the best one out there right now. It's a library called Gecko, I think it is? They said you can get a client-application that has built-in Bugzilla support from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/ Later, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ J. Paul Reed -- 0xDF8708F8 || preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin I use PGP; you should use PGP too... if only to piss off John Ashcroft From cbendell at point2.com Wed Jun 4 23:10:30 2003 From: cbendell at point2.com (Colin Bendell) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Subject: C API for Bugzilla Message-ID: <85339FA608200E43BA1A364F09C337D60130C7C9@bruno.point2.com> Is there a reason why this discussion is focusing on a C API or curl for interfacing to bz instead of a web services implementation? From my perspective it would be much easier if I just had to make a bunch of soap calls to do the work I needed. This way the calling app can be platform / language independent. /colin > -----Original Message----- > From: Gervase Markham [mailto:gerv at mozilla.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:29 PM > To: developers at bugzilla.org > Subject: Re: C API for Bugzilla > > J. Paul Reed wrote: > > Well, I don't see why everyone wants to reinvent the wheel, but in > > discussions in IRC today about how you'd do this, you could write a C > API > > that uses curl to contact Bugzila via our HTTP API. > > > > Justdave suggested that... I didn't know we had an HTTP API. > > Well, you submit HTTP requests to Bugzilla, and get data back. Sounds > like an API to me. > > Oh, you meant a _stable_ API with easily-parseable data? Not sure about > that. ;-) > > Gerv > > > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > From jason at pyeron.com Thu Jun 5 00:12:35 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030604153043.20283.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We are working on a Java version right now. On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Ferhat Ayaz wrote: Hi, what do you think about a C API for Bugzilla?? Shouldn't this be created as a project? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Message-ID: <003701c32b21$26f5e470$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Dear all: I followed exactly what the Bugzilla Guide (2.16.3) to install everything that is needed (on RH 7.3), except some modules are newer than the required ones. ./checksetup runs fine and does not complain any error. However, when I tried to access index.cgi, I always got the following: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /bugzilla/index.cgi on this server. I tried almost all the possibilities (restart httpd, rerun checsetup, reinall bugzilla, etc.), and still can't get through this. Why is that? One thing, though, I did successfully install bugzilla on another machine with exactly the same config (without any problems at all)!! But I just can't repeat that here!! Your help will be very much appreciated !! Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From justdave at syndicomm.com Thu Jun 5 05:29:55 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 01:29:55 -0400 Subject: Access to Bugzilla is always forbidden!!! In-Reply-To: <003701c32b21$26f5e470$3a04050a@patricklrd1> References: <003701c32b21$26f5e470$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Message-ID: On 6/5/2003 1:13 PM +0800, Patrick Lam wrote: > I followed exactly what the Bugzilla Guide (2.16.3) to install everything >that is needed (on RH 7.3), except some modules are newer than the >required ones. ./checksetup runs fine and does not complain any error. >However, when I tried to access index.cgi, I always got the following: > > Forbidden > > You don't have permission to access /bugzilla/index.cgi on this server. Since you're on RedHat, set $webservergroup to 'apache' in localconfig, then run checksetup.pl again. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From patrickl at astri.org Thu Jun 5 06:13:27 2003 From: patrickl at astri.org (Patrick Lam) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:13:27 +0800 Subject: Access to Bugzilla is always forbidden!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004e01c32b29$9585e720$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Thanks for your suggestion. However, as soon as I changed that, the error becomes: "Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request." When I switch the webservergroup to "nobody", I got the original error (i.e. Forbidden). ??? Thanks again in advance. Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: developers-owner at bugzilla.org [mailto:developers-owner at bugzilla.org] > On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:17 PM > To: developers at bugzilla.org > Subject: Re: Access to Bugzilla is always forbidden!!! > > check that all parent directories are +x and then the webservergroup in > localconfig is set correctly (this is what i frequently forget) > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > - - > - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - > - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - > - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - > - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - > - - > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you > have received it in error, purge the message from your system and > notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you > is prohibited. > > > > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > From justdave at syndicomm.com Thu Jun 5 06:18:17 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:18:17 -0400 Subject: Access to Bugzilla is always forbidden!!! In-Reply-To: <004e01c32b29$9585e720$3a04050a@patricklrd1> References: <004e01c32b29$9585e720$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Message-ID: On 6/5/2003 2:13 PM +0800, Patrick Lam wrote: > Thanks for your suggestion. > > However, as soon as I changed that, the error becomes: > > "Internal Server Error > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request." > > When I switch the webservergroup to "nobody", I got the original error > (i.e. Forbidden). 'apache' is correct then, and you have something else happening. Make sure the path in the #! lines at the top of the cgi files actually points at your Perl. If it doesn't, you'll need to either change all of them, or create a symlink where it does point, that redirects to the real one. There's a command line example in the docs on the website that tells how to change the #! line on all the files at once. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From jason at pyeron.com Thu Jun 5 06:20:46 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Access to Bugzilla is always forbidden!!! In-Reply-To: <004e01c32b29$9585e720$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Message-ID: and then what did your logs say? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From jason at pyeron.com Thu Jun 5 06:23:58 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: checkseyup.pl:1897 In-Reply-To: <004e01c32b29$9585e720$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Message-ID: can anyone explain this to me? I tried to do it by hand in mysql but i get a table bugs not found???? Thanks AddFDef("(to_days(now()) - to_days(bugs.delta_ts))", "Days since bug changed", 0); REPLACE INTO fielddefs (fieldid, name, description, mailhead, sortkey) VALUES (NULL, (to_days(now()) - to_days(bugs.delta_ts)), "Days since bug changed",0,31); -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From justdave at syndicomm.com Thu Jun 5 06:28:21 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:28:21 -0400 Subject: checkseyup.pl:1897 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/5/2003 2:23 AM -0400, Jason Pyeron wrote: > can anyone explain this to me? > I tried to do it by hand in mysql but i get a table bugs not found???? > > > Thanks > > > > AddFDef("(to_days(now()) - to_days(bugs.delta_ts))", "Days since bug >changed", 0); > > REPLACE INTO fielddefs (fieldid, name, description, mailhead, sortkey) > VALUES (NULL, (to_days(now()) - to_days(bugs.delta_ts)), "Days since bug > changed",0,31); Although it happens to be SQL, that's just an accident. It's a string, and stored exactly as it looks, so make sure you quote it when you insert it :) REPLACE INTO fielddefs (fieldid, name, description, mailhead, sortkey) VALUES (NULL, '(to_days(now()) - to_days(bugs.delta_ts))', 'Days since bug changed',0,31); -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From ferhatayaz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 5 06:56:10 2003 From: ferhatayaz at yahoo.com (Ferhat Ayaz) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <85339FA608200E43BA1A364F09C337D60130C7C9@bruno.point2.com> Message-ID: <20030605065610.46138.qmail@web41203.mail.yahoo.com> That right, but we want a library without modifiying existing bugzilla installations. I don't think that perl is a good idea to implement a frontend application , for instance using gtk. However, perl is a nice tool to administrate bugzilla:) --- Colin Bendell wrote: > Is there a reason why this discussion is focusing on > a C API or curl for > interfacing to bz instead of a web services > implementation? From my > perspective it would be much easier if I just had to > make a bunch of > soap calls to do the work I needed. This way the > calling app can be > platform / language independent. > > /colin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gervase Markham [mailto:gerv at mozilla.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:29 PM > > To: developers at bugzilla.org > > Subject: Re: C API for Bugzilla > > > > J. Paul Reed wrote: > > > Well, I don't see why everyone wants to reinvent > the wheel, but in > > > discussions in IRC today about how you'd do > this, you could write a > C > > API > > > that uses curl to contact Bugzila via our HTTP > API. > > > > > > Justdave suggested that... I didn't know we had > an HTTP API. > > > > Well, you submit HTTP requests to Bugzilla, and > get data back. Sounds > > like an API to me. > > > > Oh, you meant a _stable_ API with easily-parseable > data? Not sure > about > > that. ;-) > > > > Gerv > > > > > > ---- > > To view or change your list settings, click here: > > > > > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From justdave at syndicomm.com Thu Jun 5 07:03:32 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 03:03:32 -0400 Subject: bugzilla webbased cvs? In-Reply-To: <20030603193437.A1979@sigkill.com> References: <20030603120259.B1956@sigkill.com> <20030603193437.A1979@sigkill.com> Message-ID: On 6/3/2003 7:34 PM -0700, J. Paul Reed wrote: > On 03 Jun 2003 at 19:06:08, Christopher Hicks moved bits on my disk to say: > >> I looked and couldn't find it in there. Can you post a URL? > > Bonsai uses LXR, but: > > http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/webtools/bugzilla/ He means http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/webtools/lxr/ You can also pull it via cvs from cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot using mozilla/webtools/lxr as the module name. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From justdave at syndicomm.com Thu Jun 5 07:14:07 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 03:14:07 -0400 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <85339FA608200E43BA1A364F09C337D60130C7C9@bruno.point2.com> References: <85339FA608200E43BA1A364F09C337D60130C7C9@bruno.point2.com> Message-ID: On 6/4/2003 5:10 PM -0600, Colin Bendell wrote: > Is there a reason why this discussion is focusing on a C API or curl for > interfacing to bz instead of a web services implementation? From my > perspective it would be much easier if I just had to make a bunch of > soap calls to do the work I needed. This way the calling app can be > platform / language independent. The newer versions of Bugzilla are getting better and better at this. More and more of the result sets (and even some basic configuration information) are starting to become available in formats like CSV, XML, and RDF, by specifying a ctype parameter to the URL. Currently on cvs tip, individual bugs can be retrieved in XML format, buglists can be retrieved in both RDF and CSV, and also as javascript variable definitions. You can get configuration information about the site in both RDF and as javascript variable definitions. You still make standard GET or POST requests with form-data-encoded parameters, rather than RPC or SOAP or something, but that's still not that hard to put together from most languages. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From justdave at syndicomm.com Thu Jun 5 09:55:32 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 05:55:32 -0400 Subject: enter_bug.cgi at bugzilla In-Reply-To: <3ED538BC.9080108@mozilla.org> References: <3ED538BC.9080108@mozilla.org> Message-ID: On 5/28/2003 11:31 PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > Casey Gregoire wrote: >> Does the custom template use something to group them? Can I get this >> template as a base for what I would like to do? > > I wrote it; I think it works by hard-coding some categories, and then > printing everything else at the end. It'll be attached to some closed > buy somewhere, either in the Bugzilla or mozilla.org products. I'm sure > you can hunt it down :-) I was digging for this back when this message was posted and didn't find it. Ran across it on accident tonight. :) http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174298 -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jun 4 23:04:03 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 00:04:03 +0100 Subject: Throw GCC on the HOF In-Reply-To: <3ED5748D.7070306@bugzilla.org> References: <5FB93110-8CBD-11D7-85C9-000A95A34564@dberlin.org> <3ED3E23E.1040103@bugzilla.org> <3ED3EF40.2020300@mozilla.org> <3ED4F167.3040405@mozilla.org> <3ED544B3.2010300@mozilla.org> <3ED5748D.7070306@bugzilla.org> Message-ID: <3EDE7AE3.3060104@mozilla.org> Jake wrote: > I had placed a link to it in the documentation source (haven't > recompiled yet) that I was going to update but it looks like the > installation-list directory is empty. Yep; sorry, don't know what happened there. Now checked in (wait an hour for the website to sync.) Gerv From vincent at astri.org Fri Jun 6 04:12:37 2003 From: vincent at astri.org (Vincent) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:12:37 +0800 Subject: Question after the "Owner" after RESOLVED Message-ID: <3EE014B5.2020002@astri.org> Dear all, I woud like to ask whether the owner field cannot be changed after the bug has been resolved. It is good to have one because QE can be assigned for that resolved bug. Thanks a lot! Regards, Vincent From jason at pyeron.com Fri Jun 6 07:09:59 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 03:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Win32, cygwin, install notes bug 208521 Message-ID: Had a pleasent install experience here, read more there: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208521 -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From olivier.lambert at francetelecom.com Fri Jun 6 08:56:57 2003 From: olivier.lambert at francetelecom.com (LAMBERT Olivier URS TOULOUSE) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:56:57 +0200 Subject: localisation (2.16.3) : still a lot of english pages... Message-ID: <20030606085657.GA29822@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> Hi folks ! Just seen that translating template/en/* is far from being enough : Many hardcoded english messages are still in cgi files... Should it be a good think to create a patch to be applied to cgi files ? (this brokes language choice if done) Olivier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gerv at mozilla.org Fri Jun 6 09:48:42 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:48:42 +0100 Subject: localisation (2.16.3) : still a lot of english pages... In-Reply-To: <20030606085657.GA29822@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> References: <20030606085657.GA29822@stage2.gsn12.francetelecom.fr> Message-ID: <3EE0637A.3050509@mozilla.org> LAMBERT Olivier URS TOULOUSE wrote: > Just seen that translating template/en/* is far from being enough : > > Many hardcoded english messages are still in cgi files... Yes - 2.16 was a "good first try" at localisability, but it wasn't quite finished. The situation in 2.17.x is much better, although we still have the email system to do, because it hasn't been templatised yet. > Should it be a good think to create a patch to be applied to cgi files ? > (this brokes language choice if done) You may want to make such a patch for people who want a French-only Bugzilla; everyone else will just have to cope with English errors. Gerv From nshmyrev at yandex.ru Sat Jun 7 20:37:26 2003 From: nshmyrev at yandex.ru (nshmyrev) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 00:37:26 +0400 (MSD) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3EE24D06.00000A.01755@camay.yandex.ru> Hello. We going to begin a project for creating gtk-based GUI for various bug-tracking systems as gnats and bugzilla. Our plans include a plugin for Anjuta 2 IDE. Any suggestions and ideas will be useful. From louie at ximian.com Sat Jun 7 21:26:16 2003 From: louie at ximian.com (Luis Villa) Date: 07 Jun 2003 17:26:16 -0400 Subject: [gtk gui for bugzilla] In-Reply-To: <3EE24D06.00000A.01755@camay.yandex.ru> References: <3EE24D06.00000A.01755@camay.yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1055021175.28963.5118.camel@marvin.boston.ximian.com> nshmyrev: One thing you might consider is cc:ing bugsquad at gnome.org, which should be able to help you with interfacing to bugzilla.gnome.org. Unfortunately, b.g.o is pretty ancient, and our upgrade project is pretty stalled at the moment, so if you intend to work with b.g.o you won't be able to take advantage of some of the functionality of newer versions of bugzilla. Good luck- I'd love to use such a thing myself, though perhaps my needs are a bit abnormal :) Luis On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 16:37, nshmyrev wrote: > Hello. > > We going to begin a project for creating gtk-based GUI for various bug-tracking systems as gnats and bugzilla. Our plans include a plugin for Anjuta 2 IDE. > > Any suggestions and ideas will be useful. > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > > From jimw at bugopolis.com Sun Jun 8 22:58:13 2003 From: jimw at bugopolis.com (Jim Walters) Date: 08 Jun 2003 15:58:13 -0700 Subject: C API for Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <730146B6-96D3-11D7-9AB1-000A95A34564@dberlin.org> References: <730146B6-96D3-11D7-9AB1-000A95A34564@dberlin.org> Message-ID: <1055113093.32530.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've looked at the Redhat drop and it is using the Frontier module for the XMLRPC. It looks like the XMLRPC calls are "thunked" with a thin layer to a custom perl module that implements the XMLRPC function call logic. If the bugzilla concept of moving the heavy lifting into a library of *.pm makes substantial progress with the essential API calls it shouldn't be too difficult to add the XMLRPC layer using whatever library as long as error handling back to the remote client is handled intelligently. In selection of a library for implementing XMLRPC/SOAP one might want to pick one compatible with the eventual creation of an Eclipse plug-in. Extending/merging Redhat's existing code or doing something equivalent is still on my TODO list... Jim On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 14:28, Daniel Berlin wrote: > On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 02:09 PM, J. Paul Reed wrote: > > > On 04 Jun 2003 at 10:10:46, Ferhat Ayaz moved bits on my disk to say: > > > >> This can be a way to write customized "bugzilla client" > >> > >> Thanks for your opinions > > > > Well, I don't see why everyone wants to reinvent the wheel, but in > > discussions in IRC today about how you'd do this, you could write a C > > API > > that uses curl to contact Bugzila via our HTTP API. > > > > Redhat's bugzilla has an XMLRPC API that is trivial to add to an > existing Bugzilla (It consists of Bugzilla/RPC.pm, and xmlrpc.cgi). > > You'd be better off with that than trying to use our HTTP API directly. > > > > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > __________________________ Jim Walters Director of Technology Bugopolis, Inc. phone: +1 206 447 8315 email: jimw at bugopolis.com web: http://www.bugopolis.com _________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeroen at xs4all.nl Sun Jun 8 12:04:13 2003 From: jeroen at xs4all.nl (Jeroen Zwartepoorte) Date: 08 Jun 2003 14:04:13 +0200 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <3EE24D06.00000A.01755@camay.yandex.ru> References: <3EE24D06.00000A.01755@camay.yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1055073853.13612.1.camel@anduril> Hi, I started such a project about a year ago, but never finished it (bugzilla-buddy in gnome cvs). The main problem i encountered was interfacing with bugzilla. Since afaik bugzilla has no web service, the only option to communicate with bugzilla was through CGI scripts and parsing the resulting HTML. Has this situation improved by now? Regards, Jeroen On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 22:37, nshmyrev wrote: > Hello. > > We going to begin a project for creating gtk-based GUI for various bug-tracking systems as gnats and bugzilla. Our plans include a plugin for Anjuta 2 IDE. > > Any suggestions and ideas will be useful. > _______________________________________________ > gnome-devtools mailing list > gnome-devtools at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-devtools > From jason at pyeron.com Mon Jun 9 16:32:55 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 12:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: bugzilla's cvs Message-ID: Is there a documented tree for the cvs root? does the contrib dir get tagged with each release? can I mirror the cvsroot? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From jason at pyeron.com Mon Jun 9 16:42:08 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 12:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: bugzilla's cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks for the info but >does the contrib dir get tagged with each release? > TIA -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From preed at sigkill.com Mon Jun 9 16:47:13 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:47:13 -0700 Subject: bugzilla's cvs In-Reply-To: ; from jason@pyeron.com on Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 12:42:08PM -0400 References: Message-ID: <20030609094713.A24197@sigkill.com> On 09 Jun 2003 at 12:42:08, Jason Pyeron moved bits on my disk to say: > >does the contrib dir get tagged with each release? You can check this yourself by running 'cvs log' ('cvs stat -v' also works) on files in contrib/. But the short answer is yes. Later, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ J. Paul Reed -- 0xDF8708F8 || preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin I use PGP; you should use PGP too... if only to piss off John Ashcroft From gerv at mozilla.org Mon Jun 9 16:51:13 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:51:13 +0100 Subject: bugzilla's cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE4BB01.7060403@mozilla.org> Jason Pyeron wrote: > Is there a documented tree for the cvs root? I don't understand the question. > does the contrib dir get tagged with each release? Yes, as far as I know. > can I mirror the cvsroot? Are you asking whether it's technically possible, or are you asking for permission? For the former, see your CVS manual. For the latter, if it only requires anon access, go ahead. If it requires more, then it's more complicated. Gerv From gerv at mozilla.org Mon Jun 9 16:52:35 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:52:35 +0100 Subject: bugzilla's cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE4BB53.90905@mozilla.org> Jason Pyeron wrote: > Is there a documented tree for the cvs root? I don't understand the question. > does the contrib dir get tagged with each release? Yes, as far as I know. > can I mirror the cvsroot? Are you asking whether it's technically possible, or for permission? For the former, see your CVS manual. For the latter, it depends what you want to do with the mirror ;-) Gerv From justdave at syndicomm.com Mon Jun 9 16:57:53 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 12:57:53 -0400 Subject: bugzilla's cvs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/9/2003 12:32 PM -0400, Jason Pyeron wrote: > Is there a documented tree for the cvs root? See http://www.bugzilla.org/download.html#cvs > does the contrib dir get tagged with each release? Yes. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From gerv at mozilla.org Mon Jun 9 17:17:21 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 18:17:21 +0100 Subject: Question after the "Owner" after RESOLVED In-Reply-To: <3EE014B5.2020002@astri.org> References: <3EE014B5.2020002@astri.org> Message-ID: <3EE4C121.3010102@mozilla.org> Vincent wrote: > I woud like to ask whether the owner field cannot be changed after the > bug has been resolved. > It is good to have one because QE can be assigned for that resolved bug. This is what a QA Contact is for - they should query for RESOLVED bugs for which they are the QA Contact, and then VERIFY them after their work is done. Gerv From etzwane at schwag.org Tue Jun 10 08:07:38 2003 From: etzwane at schwag.org (Sean McAfee) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 04:07:38 -0400 Subject: Custom fields administrative interface... Message-ID: <20030610080738.87F04BCE2@diggity.schwag.org> ...is attached. Untar it in Bugzilla's root directory to try it out. Contents: o bz-cf-schema.txt Source this from a mysql prompt to set up the custom fields schema. o bz-cf-data.txt Source this from a mysql prompt to populate the database with some sample custom field data. All the sample fields belong to product 1, whichever one that is. o editcustomfields.cgi The main program. o template/en/default/custom-field/* Various templates. Whew! That took considerably longer than I'd been expecting. The code probably has a few rough edges remaining, but I'm still pretty happy with it. Hopefully much of it can be leveraged into other BZ programs. I don't know of any outstanding bugs. All comments are welcome. Notes: * The code does not currently disallow non-administrator access because, well, I'm not entirely sure how to do that. Best not to try it on a live server. * No stock Bugzilla tables are written to. Only two, "bugs" and "products", are read from. * Presently, there is no way to create a new field group from scratch. * I did not implement editing of selection fields, because the mechanism I originally proposed came to seem rather unwieldy to me. Alternative suggestions are welcome. * The code does not yet support multiple locales. If we all ultimately agree that custom field display names belong in the database, as I aver, then all that is needed is a few extra joins to a new table--cf_text, perhaps. Otherwise, more work is needed... -- Sean McAfee -- etzwane at diggity.schwag.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[1] http://www.mehnle.net/software/m2bz [2] http://mantisbt.sourceforge.net From gerv at mozilla.org Tue Jun 10 09:53:40 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:53:40 +0100 Subject: m2bz: Mantis to Bugzilla Database Migration Tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE5AAA4.7070804@mozilla.org> Julian Mehnle wrote: > my employer recently changed their internally used bug-tracking system from > Mantis[2] to Bugzilla, That's very interesting - could you tell us about why they/you decided to make the change? > and thus had to migrate their whole bulk of existing > bug reports to the new system. So I wrote a complete migration tool for > them, and they decided to make it available freely under the GNU GPL, which > allows me to distribute it on my homepage[1] (it's not currently available > from their web site). > > Maybe you want to include it in the Bugzilla distribution package, or add a > link to it to the Bugzilla website or documentation? Thank you for writing this tool. :-) Which versions of Mantis and Bugzilla does it work with? To include it in Bugzilla (perhaps in the "contrib" directory), it would probably need to be licensed under the MPL (Mozilla Public License), either instead or as well, because that's the license that Bugzilla uses. Do you think your employer might agree to that? Otherwise, we could link to it from our documentation. Gerv From lists at mehnle.net Tue Jun 10 10:17:05 2003 From: lists at mehnle.net (Julian Mehnle) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:17:05 +0200 Subject: m2bz: Mantis to Bugzilla Database Migration Tool In-Reply-To: <3EE5AAA4.7070804@mozilla.org> Message-ID: Gervase Markham wrote: > Julian Mehnle wrote: > > my employer recently changed their internally used bug-tracking system > > from Mantis[2] to Bugzilla, > > That's very interesting - could you tell us about why they/you decided to > make the change? We decided to change because Mantis is too limited in its search/query functions, doesn't add MIME/charset headers to the emails it sends (hoping that Bugzilla would, but unfortunately 2.16.3 doesn't seem to do that either), due to general bugginess of Mantis (broken quote escaping in text fields, etc.), and last not least due to its slow release cycle. I don't know yet whether Bugzilla will make us happier in that regard, though, but on the other hand Bugzilla is quite mature already. > Thank you for writing this tool. :-) Which versions of Mantis and > Bugzilla does it work with? As the website says: currently (version 20030608), it works on the database structures of Mantis 0.17.5 and Bugzilla 2.16.3. I'm planning to support newer versions of both. > To include it in Bugzilla (perhaps in the "contrib" directory), it would > probably need to be licensed under the MPL (Mozilla Public License), > either instead or as well, because that's the license that Bugzilla > uses. Do you think your employer might agree to that? I'm going to find out. Julian. From gerv at mozilla.org Tue Jun 10 10:52:59 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:52:59 +0100 Subject: m2bz: Mantis to Bugzilla Database Migration Tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE5B88B.2020603@mozilla.org> Julian Mehnle wrote: > We decided to change because Mantis is too limited in its search/query > functions, doesn't add MIME/charset headers to the emails it sends (hoping > that Bugzilla would, but unfortunately 2.16.3 doesn't seem to do that > either), I'm pretty sure you can change the params (editparams.cgi) to do that. >>To include it in Bugzilla (perhaps in the "contrib" directory), it would >>probably need to be licensed under the MPL (Mozilla Public License), >>either instead or as well, because that's the license that Bugzilla >>uses. Do you think your employer might agree to that? > > I'm going to find out. Before you do, to avoid possible unnecessary work, you might want to wait to hear from Dave Miller, the Bugzilla project leader (who reads this list) - he has the final say on what goes in, and might want to comment. He'll be waking up in a few hours. ;-) Gerv From justdave at syndicomm.com Tue Jun 10 11:00:40 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 07:00:40 -0400 Subject: m2bz: Mantis to Bugzilla Database Migration Tool In-Reply-To: <3EE5B88B.2020603@mozilla.org> References: <3EE5B88B.2020603@mozilla.org> Message-ID: On 6/10/2003 11:52 AM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > Julian Mehnle wrote: > >> We decided to change because Mantis is too limited in its search/query >> functions, doesn't add MIME/charset headers to the emails it sends (hoping >> that Bugzilla would, but unfortunately 2.16.3 doesn't seem to do that >> either), > > I'm pretty sure you can change the params (editparams.cgi) to do that. Yeah, you should be able to edit the mail headers in the params, to put whatever headers you want in them. That'll help with the mail headers, but not with the actual web pages. In 2.16.3 and 2.17.4, you'll have to touch about 40 files to get consistent charset headers. On the CVS tip it's in one spot in Bugzilla/CGI.pm. >>>To include it in Bugzilla (perhaps in the "contrib" directory), it would >>>probably need to be licensed under the MPL (Mozilla Public License), >>>either instead or as well, because that's the license that Bugzilla >>>uses. Do you think your employer might agree to that? >> >> I'm going to find out. > > Before you do, to avoid possible unnecessary work, you might want to > wait to hear from Dave Miller, the Bugzilla project leader (who reads > this list) - he has the final say on what goes in, and might want to > comment. He'll be waking up in a few hours. ;-) Or I might be awake now. :) (just lucky, normally I'm not up this early in the morning :) I'd be happy to put it in contrib if it was licensed with MPL. If not, we can link to it from the website and/or docs as mentioned. Either way, it's way cool that you're making it available, thanks! -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From jason at pyeron.com Tue Jun 10 14:29:29 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Custom fields administrative interface... In-Reply-To: <20030610080738.87F04BCE2@diggity.schwag.org> Message-ID: did/can you file a bug with your last email? I think it would help others more, esp since you have patches now. If I have time I will patch your edit page for admin access. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From ainasadia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 17:20:16 2003 From: ainasadia at yahoo.com (sadia aina) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Information required for developing ER diagram of Bugzilla database. Message-ID: <20030610172016.41487.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> hi, I am working on the entity relationship diagram of bugzilla database. I got few questions . 1. I have gone through the entire database and there is one thing strange ,there is not Foreign key specified for any primary key. so how to figure out the refrential integrity between the tables. 2. Is there any rationale behind not specifying foreign keys. waiting for reply Aina Sadia MS student(University of Alberta. Canada) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From etzwane at schwag.org Tue Jun 10 17:31:49 2003 From: etzwane at schwag.org (Sean McAfee) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:31:49 -0400 Subject: Custom fields administrative interface... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030610173149.8B71BBCE2@diggity.schwag.org> Jason Pyeron wrote: >did/can you file a bug with your last email? >I think it would help others more, esp since you have patches now. >If I have time I will patch your edit page for admin access. Should I open a new bug, or just use the old custom fields bug? -- Sean McAfee -- etzwane at schwag.org From justdave at syndicomm.com Tue Jun 10 17:52:11 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:52:11 -0400 Subject: Information required for developing ER diagram of Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <20030610172016.41487.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030610172016.41487.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 6/10/2003 10:20 AM -0700, sadia aina wrote: > I am working on the entity relationship diagram of > bugzilla database. I got few questions . > > 1. I have gone through the entire database and there > is one thing strange ,there is not Foreign key > specified for any primary key. so how to figure out > the refrential integrity between the tables. You'd probably have to look at code to figure it out. I actually have them all listed in the original Sybase schema conversion. I'll post that to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173130 shortly and you can grab it from there. > 2. Is there any rationale behind not specifying > foreign keys. MySQL doesn't support foreign keys (at least not until version 4.something that's not considered stable yet). If it did, they would have been used. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From myk at mozilla.org Tue Jun 10 17:56:42 2003 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:56:42 -0700 Subject: Information required for developing ER diagram of Bugzilla database. In-Reply-To: <20030610172016.41487.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030610172016.41487.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3EE61BDA.4070009@mozilla.org> sadia aina wrote: >I am working on the entity relationship diagram of >bugzilla database. > Great! Such a diagram would be a welcome addition to the Bugzilla documentation if you are willing/able to contribute it. This is especially true for the most recent Bugzilla development release (2.17.4), for which no known schema information exists. Earlier releases have been documented at the following URLs: http://www.ravenbrook.com/project/p4dti/master/design/bugzilla-schema/ http://home1.gte.net/~kbrannen/other.htm >1. I have gone through the entire database and there >is one thing strange ,there is not Foreign key >specified for any primary key. so how to figure out >the refrential integrity between the tables. > > In many cases the keys are named the same in two tables, f.e. "bug_id" in the bugs and attachments tables. In other cases a foreign key will be named after the table containing the primary key, f.e. the "product_id" foreign key in the components table, which refers to the "id" primary key in the products table. In a few cases the keys are more obtuse, f.e. the "who" column in several tables is a foreign key for the "userid" column in the profiles table. The first link above is a good reference for such information. >2. Is there any rationale behind not specifying >foreign keys. > > At the time Bugzilla was developed MySQL didn't support foreign keys. It does now (via the InnoDB table type), but Bugzilla still hasn't been modified to use them. -myk From myk at mozilla.org Tue Jun 10 18:12:16 2003 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:12:16 -0700 Subject: Information required for developing ER diagram of Bugzilla In-Reply-To: References: <20030610172016.41487.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3EE61F80.3060200@mozilla.org> David Miller wrote: >MySQL doesn't support foreign keys (at least not until version 4.something >that's not considered stable yet). If it did, they would have been used. > > Err, it supports them in 3.23.x via the InnoDB table type, and 4.0.x has been stable (and is the currently recommended production release) since 4.0.12. -myk From justdave at syndicomm.com Tue Jun 10 18:19:45 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:19:45 -0400 Subject: Information required for developing ER diagram of Bugzilla In-Reply-To: <3EE61F80.3060200@mozilla.org> References: <20030610172016.41487.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> <3EE61F80.3060200@mozilla.org> Message-ID: On 6/10/2003 11:12 AM -0700, Myk Melez wrote: > David Miller wrote: > >>MySQL doesn't support foreign keys (at least not until version 4.something >>that's not considered stable yet). If it did, they would have been used. >> >> > Err, it supports them in 3.23.x via the InnoDB table type, and 4.0.x has > been stable (and is the currently recommended production release) since > 4.0.12. Ah, I didn't realize InnoDB had those. Good to know. But we only just recently stopped supporting MySQL 3.22, and 3.22 definitely didn't have them :) -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jun 11 07:14:49 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:14:49 +0100 Subject: Custom fields administrative interface... In-Reply-To: <20030610080738.87F04BCE2@diggity.schwag.org> References: <20030610080738.87F04BCE2@diggity.schwag.org> Message-ID: <3EE6D6E9.9000903@mozilla.org> Sean McAfee wrote: > ...is attached. Untar it in Bugzilla's root directory to try it out. Sean, I haven't had (and may not have for a while) time to evaluate this particularly closely. Keeping up with all of this is a time-sink - and other Bugzilla hackers have noticed that, which is why your proposal has not yet had any substantive comments from them. But, having looked at the schema, it does seem that you have decided not to make the changes I suggested in our last conversation. That's your prerogative, of course, but in my view, the structure of this CF implementation is too far off base to get checked into Bugzilla as-is. There's good stuff about it, but (just looking in the schema) two issues in particular leap out. It seems pretty clear that Bugzilla needs only one bug activity tracking mechanism. So, for your patch to get in to Bugzilla, you either need to provide one which replaces the current one (together with migrating code) or you need to use the current one, enhancing it as necessary. Secondly, the groups mechanism you are using is, in my view, unecessary, over-complicates things and would be confusing to users. The problem it's designed to be solved can be solved much more simply by a per-field multiselect of products, and a per-product multiselect of fields (on different pages, naturally), so admins can attack the mapping problem from both sides. (There would also be a per-group checkbox "add this field to new products", and a per-product checkbox, "add this product to new custom fields".) > * No stock Bugzilla tables are written to. Only two, "bugs" and > "products", are read from. This is a bug, not a feature. :-) > * The code does not yet support multiple locales. If we all ultimately > agree that custom field display names belong in the database, as I aver, > then all that is needed is a few extra joins to a new table--cf_text, > perhaps. Otherwise, more work is needed... This discussion needs to continue - but I continue to assert that my precepts stated previously remain non-negotiable. I do think there's a way for us both to get what we want, though. Gerv From abikkina at lemurnetworks.net Wed Jun 11 14:34:33 2003 From: abikkina at lemurnetworks.net (Anna Bikkina) Date: 11 Jun 2003 10:34:33 -0400 Subject: How to make a field 'required' Message-ID: <1055342074.1573.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I want make the field platform 'required' when a user files bugs. How can change the settings to make a particular field required. Thanks, Anna. From jason at pyeron.com Wed Jun 11 14:35:17 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: support emails and bugzilla... Message-ID: Does any one know of a project to tag emails and store them in bugzilla? I am looking to track the support at pyerotechnics.com email. If one does not exist I will have to write it. Looking for pointers then. Here is what I have identified so far: pipe in MIME message message body to comments attachments to attachments create a token to identify the email and bug token needs to be crypto secure need to be able to extract the bug # if incoming message has token then verify and append to bug. needs to be able to do actions in bugzilla as sender of email this means that a user might need to be created. optionally do all actions in bugzilla as set user generate report/email based on values ie auto reply saying please reply to this or goto http://bug/43 etc. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From jake at bugzilla.org Wed Jun 11 14:41:50 2003 From: jake at bugzilla.org (Jake) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:41:50 -0400 Subject: support emails and bugzilla... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE73FAE.70607@bugzilla.org> Jason Pyeron wrote: >Does any one know of a project to tag emails and store them in bugzilla? > >I am looking to track the support at pyerotechnics.com email. > > There's one in the contrib/ directory that isn't officially supported but AFAIK is functional. From jason at pyeron.com Wed Jun 11 15:03:08 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: support emails and bugzilla... In-Reply-To: <3EE73FAE.70607@bugzilla.org> Message-ID: Yea, I looked at it but it seems to require too much conformity on behalf of the user. The goal is to not require any knowledge about bugzilla from the user's point of view. Further we don't want them to be able to 'do' bugzilla functions via email. If the user is advanced then they will follow the link to the QA web site. Jason Pyeron On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Jake wrote: > Jason Pyeron wrote: > > >Does any one know of a project to tag emails and store them in bugzilla? > > > >I am looking to track the support at pyerotechnics.com email. > > > > > There's one in the contrib/ directory that isn't officially supported > but AFAIK is functional. > > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jun 11 17:29:12 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:29:12 +0100 Subject: support emails and bugzilla... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE766E8.3050608@mozilla.org> Jason Pyeron wrote: > Does any one know of a project to tag emails and store them in bugzilla? No, but RT (an alternative tool) does roughly what you want. It's based around an email interface, for support helpdesks and the like. Gerv From etzwane at schwag.org Wed Jun 11 18:49:47 2003 From: etzwane at schwag.org (Sean McAfee) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:49:47 -0400 Subject: Custom fields administrative interface... In-Reply-To: <3EE6D6E9.9000903@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <20030611184947.BA00DBCDF@diggity.schwag.org> Gervase Markham wrote: >Sean, >I haven't had (and may not have for a while) time to evaluate this >particularly closely. Keeping up with all of this is a time-sink - and >other Bugzilla hackers have noticed that, which is why your proposal has >not yet had any substantive comments from them. But, having looked at >the schema, it does seem that you have decided not to make the changes I >suggested in our last conversation. Yes, because my responses to your suggested changes have gone unanswered, by you or anyone else, since I posted them two weeks ago. As I've mentioned, my company is looking to transition to Bugzilla in the very near future, and I can't afford to dawdle. >It seems pretty clear that Bugzilla needs only one bug activity tracking >mechanism. So, for your patch to get in to Bugzilla, you either need to >provide one which replaces the current one (together with migrating >code) or you need to use the current one, enhancing it as necessary. Sigh. Since I don't care for lossy auditing, I guess it'll have to be the former. Should I open a new bug, or what? >Secondly, the groups mechanism you are using is, in my view, unecessary, >over-complicates things and would be confusing to users. You mean "administrators" here, right? The grouping mechanism would be invisible to ordinary users. >The problem >it's designed to be solved can be solved much more simply by a per-field >multiselect of products, and a per-product multiselect of fields (on >different pages, naturally), so admins can attack the mapping problem >from both sides. (There would also be a per-group checkbox "add this >field to new products", and a per-product checkbox, "add this product to >new custom fields".) This is a minimalist approach to field sharing, which seems to me as if it would be awkward and confusing. (I expounded on this in my previous message.) It sure would be swell if other developers would weigh in-- *cough* *cough*--since right now it seems like one person's opinion versus one other person's opinion, which isn't terribly statistically signiificant. In any case, field-product membership should be determinable by a single SELECT statement whichever way we ultimately go, so I'll keep plugging away with my scheme for the time being. >> * The code does not yet support multiple locales. If we all ultimately >> agree that custom field display names belong in the database, as I aver, >> then all that is needed is a few extra joins to a new table--cf_text, >> perhaps. Otherwise, more work is needed... >This discussion needs to continue - but I continue to assert that my >precepts stated previously remain non-negotiable. I do think there's a >way for us both to get what we want, though. I'm happy to continue the discussion; the ball's in your court (or the court of anyone who wants to take up a contrary position). -- Sean McAfee -- etzwane at schwag.org From jason at pyeron.com Wed Jun 11 20:04:52 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: support emails and bugzilla... In-Reply-To: <3EE766E8.3050608@mozilla.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Gervase Markham wrote: > Jason Pyeron wrote: > > > Does any one know of a project to tag emails and store them in bugzilla? > > No, but RT (an alternative tool) does roughly what you want. It's based > around an email interface, for support helpdesks and the like. do you have nay details on this RT? google does not help so much. You did say it is not bugzilla driven tho? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From preed at sigkill.com Wed Jun 11 20:16:43 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:16:43 -0700 Subject: support emails and bugzilla... In-Reply-To: ; from jason@pyeron.com on Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 04:04:52PM -0400 References: <3EE766E8.3050608@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <20030611131643.A6205@sigkill.com> On 11 Jun 2003 at 16:04:52, Jason Pyeron moved bits on my disk to say: > do you have nay details on this RT? google does not help so much. Try Freshmeat. > You did say it is not bugzilla driven tho? No. Later, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ J. Paul Reed -- 0xDF8708F8 || preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin I use PGP; you should use PGP too... if only to piss off John Ashcroft From caseyg at chsamerica.com Wed Jun 11 20:27:16 2003 From: caseyg at chsamerica.com (Casey Gregoire) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:27:16 -0400 Subject: support emails and bugzilla... Message-ID: http://www.bestpractical.com/ here is the link to their site. It's a neat system but is entirely separate from Bugzilla. Thanks, Casey Gregoire -----Original Message----- From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jason at pyeron.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:05 PM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: support emails and bugzilla... On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Gervase Markham wrote: > Jason Pyeron wrote: > > > Does any one know of a project to tag emails and store them in bugzilla? > > No, but RT (an alternative tool) does roughly what you want. It's based > around an email interface, for support helpdesks and the like. do you have nay details on this RT? google does not help so much. You did say it is not bugzilla driven tho? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ---- To view or change your list settings, click here: From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jun 11 21:18:16 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:18:16 +0100 Subject: Custom fields administrative interface... In-Reply-To: <20030611184947.BA00DBCDF@diggity.schwag.org> References: <20030611184947.BA00DBCDF@diggity.schwag.org> Message-ID: <3EE79C98.10102@mozilla.org> Sean McAfee wrote: > Yes, because my responses to your suggested changes have gone unanswered, by > you or anyone else, since I posted them two weeks ago. Looking back, the current discussion thread no longer mentions the bug activity tracking, so that issue seems to have played itself out into deadlock. As for the other one, you said: > OK, that approach addresses the issue, but it doesn't scale well. > Adding a new global field to an N-product installation would involve: > > 1. Shift-click all products visible in the multiselect (seven, say). > 2. Scroll down. > 3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 (ceil(N/7)-1) times. This is by far from the optimum UI - I anticipate that when you create a product, you choose which custom fields it has from a multiselect, and when you create a new field, you choose which products it applies to. Merely because there is some discussion to be had on the best way of doing the UI for the simple-to-implement-and-understand version doesn't mean it should be discarded. > As I've mentioned, > my company is looking to transition to Bugzilla in the very near future, and > I can't afford to dawdle. That may well be true; however, all of us only have a limited amount of time to devote to Bugzilla. Those who are paid to work on it (just justdave, really) have many other responsibilities. My message is not to upbraid you for anything - it's just making you aware of the situation. We didn't want you to assume that silence equalled approval, and therefore be disappointed and surprised when, late on, someone came and said "well, this isn't really what we want." >>It seems pretty clear that Bugzilla needs only one bug activity tracking >>mechanism. So, for your patch to get in to Bugzilla, you either need to >>provide one which replaces the current one (together with migrating >>code) or you need to use the current one, enhancing it as necessary. > > Sigh. Since I don't care for lossy auditing, I guess it'll have to be the > former. Should I open a new bug, or what? Why the former? You only named one bug with the latter (it doesn't record the entire change in a large text field). If you want to reimplement our bug activity tracking, I guess you can open a new bug. But you'd need a good list of reasons why the reimplementation is better, and why fixing the current one isn't an option. And you still haven't explained what kind of use you'd have for an even more detailed log than the one we have. Do you trust your developers so little that you have to check up on their every move? >>Secondly, the groups mechanism you are using is, in my view, unecessary, >>over-complicates things and would be confusing to users. > > You mean "administrators" here, right? The grouping mechanism would be > invisible to ordinary users. Users of the groups system - so yes, administrators. >>>* The code does not yet support multiple locales. If we all ultimately >>> agree that custom field display names belong in the database, as I aver, >>> then all that is needed is a few extra joins to a new table--cf_text, >>> perhaps. Otherwise, more work is needed... > >>This discussion needs to continue - but I continue to assert that my >>precepts stated previously remain non-negotiable. I do think there's a >>way for us both to get what we want, though. > > I'm happy to continue the discussion; the ball's in your court (or the court > of anyone who wants to take up a contrary position). My suggestion is that the strings are kept in templates, but we have a tool for editing those templates using a prettier GUI. When it saves them, TT will notice and start using the new version. Gerv From gerv at mozilla.org Wed Jun 11 22:57:48 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:57:48 +0100 Subject: How to make a field 'required' In-Reply-To: <1055342074.1573.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1055342074.1573.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3EE7B3EC.7060305@mozilla.org> Anna Bikkina wrote: > I want make the field platform 'required' when a user files bugs. How > can change the settings to make a particular field required. Er... what do you mean by 'required'? Currently, the bug entry form has a "platform" dropdown, and it has to have something selected. If you don't want people using "Other", then just remove it as an option in localconfig (having made sure no bugs use it.) Gerv From jason at pyeron.com Thu Jun 12 00:21:11 2003 From: jason at pyeron.com (Jason Pyeron) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: I just realized that there is no 'contrib' component... Message-ID: What is the rationale behind this? I know contrib are not 'supported' but there still be a component for them. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron http://www.pyerotechnics.com - - Owner & Lead Pyerotechnics Development, Inc. - - +1 410 808 6646 (c) 500 West University Parkway #1S - - +1 410 467 2266 (f) Baltimore, Maryland 21210-3253 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. From justdave at syndicomm.com Thu Jun 12 00:27:44 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:27:44 -0400 Subject: I just realized that there is no 'contrib' component... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/11/2003 8:21 PM -0400, Jason Pyeron wrote: > What is the rationale behind this? I know contrib are not 'supported' but > there still be a component for them. Bugzilla-General Anything that doesn't fit in the other components, or spans multiple components. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From qinl at tuvox.com Fri Jun 13 22:12:18 2003 From: qinl at tuvox.com (Lou Qin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:12:18 -0700 Subject: Query bug status in the past Message-ID: <00fd01c331f8$e03bc610$c201a8c0@Catherine> Hi! I want to query the total outstanding (means not Fixed (resolution)) bugs in week 5/1/03 to 5/8/03. What shall I do using the bugzilla webtool? Thank you very much!! Rgs! Catherine Lou TuVox Inc. 333 Distel Circle, Los Altos CA 94022 650-6230210 x 118 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JWilmoth at starbucks.com Mon Jun 16 20:27:28 2003 From: JWilmoth at starbucks.com (Jon Wilmoth) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:27:28 -0700 Subject: Custom fields administrative interface... Message-ID: For what it's worth I completely agree with the statement that BZ should have one an only one audit mechanism. The current mechanism works for our use and since this custom-field enhancement is much more valuable for our user community, I'd like to suggest that the existing mechanism is used or enhanced. To keep things manageable a separate defect should be opened to track the progress of the audit changes. The CF enhancement would then optionally depend on that. As for the UI administration, I agree both sides of the relationship should support maintenance. There is an existing enhancement (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209195) that would seem to alleviate the work for ensuring new products had "global" custom fields. -----Original Message----- From: Gervase Markham [mailto:gerv at mozilla.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:18 PM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: Custom fields administrative interface... Sean McAfee wrote: > Yes, because my responses to your suggested changes have gone unanswered, by > you or anyone else, since I posted them two weeks ago. Looking back, the current discussion thread no longer mentions the bug activity tracking, so that issue seems to have played itself out into deadlock. As for the other one, you said: > OK, that approach addresses the issue, but it doesn't scale well. > Adding a new global field to an N-product installation would involve: > > 1. Shift-click all products visible in the multiselect (seven, say). > 2. Scroll down. > 3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 (ceil(N/7)-1) times. This is by far from the optimum UI - I anticipate that when you create a product, you choose which custom fields it has from a multiselect, and when you create a new field, you choose which products it applies to. Merely because there is some discussion to be had on the best way of doing the UI for the simple-to-implement-and-understand version doesn't mean it should be discarded. > As I've mentioned, > my company is looking to transition to Bugzilla in the very near future, and > I can't afford to dawdle. That may well be true; however, all of us only have a limited amount of time to devote to Bugzilla. Those who are paid to work on it (just justdave, really) have many other responsibilities. My message is not to upbraid you for anything - it's just making you aware of the situation. We didn't want you to assume that silence equalled approval, and therefore be disappointed and surprised when, late on, someone came and said "well, this isn't really what we want." >>It seems pretty clear that Bugzilla needs only one bug activity tracking >>mechanism. So, for your patch to get in to Bugzilla, you either need to >>provide one which replaces the current one (together with migrating >>code) or you need to use the current one, enhancing it as necessary. > > Sigh. Since I don't care for lossy auditing, I guess it'll have to be the > former. Should I open a new bug, or what? Why the former? You only named one bug with the latter (it doesn't record the entire change in a large text field). If you want to reimplement our bug activity tracking, I guess you can open a new bug. But you'd need a good list of reasons why the reimplementation is better, and why fixing the current one isn't an option. And you still haven't explained what kind of use you'd have for an even more detailed log than the one we have. Do you trust your developers so little that you have to check up on their every move? >>Secondly, the groups mechanism you are using is, in my view, unecessary, >>over-complicates things and would be confusing to users. > > You mean "administrators" here, right? The grouping mechanism would be > invisible to ordinary users. Users of the groups system - so yes, administrators. >>>* The code does not yet support multiple locales. If we all ultimately >>> agree that custom field display names belong in the database, as I aver, >>> then all that is needed is a few extra joins to a new table--cf_text, >>> perhaps. Otherwise, more work is needed... > >>This discussion needs to continue - but I continue to assert that my >>precepts stated previously remain non-negotiable. I do think there's a >>way for us both to get what we want, though. > > I'm happy to continue the discussion; the ball's in your court (or the court > of anyone who wants to take up a contrary position). My suggestion is that the strings are kept in templates, but we have a tool for editing those templates using a prettier GUI. When it saves them, TT will notice and start using the new version. Gerv ---- To view or change your list settings, click here: From jimw at bugopolis.com Tue Jun 17 15:33:40 2003 From: jimw at bugopolis.com (Jim Walters) Date: 17 Jun 2003 08:33:40 -0700 Subject: SOAP Message-ID: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> I finally have my system set up to start working on this. For the curious: - Using SOAPLite 0.55 - Development Bugzilla server is running in an instance of "user mode linux" - Using Mozilla's javascript SOAP support for the client mainly because the debugger lets me paw through the returned XML. - dev is against 2.17.4 - SOAP server code (Soap.pm) successfully runs from Bugzilla perl module directory and can use the other libraries in that directory Anyway, there are a bunch of things to figure out - Which APIs to implement - What to do when I run up against Bugzilla library functions which are "close but no cigar" when it comes to being used within the SOAP library (an initial look at implementing a simple show_bug&id=1 function indicates this may happen occasionally) - General philosophy on API arguments but more specifically return values (thin, heavy, complex, simple) - Need to learn Perl better in order to know whether I really need to resolve namespaces with things like Bugzilla::DB:ConnectToDatabase() all the time. The nice surprise was the SOAP support in Mozilla. It will give me a chance to play with XUL widgets along the way. Suggestions? __________________________ Jim Walters Director of Technology Bugopolis, Inc. phone: +1 206 447 8315 email: jimw at bugopolis.com web: http://www.bugopolis.com _________________________ From myk at mozilla.org Tue Jun 17 16:01:38 2003 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:38 -0700 Subject: SOAP In-Reply-To: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3EEF3B62.8060605@mozilla.org> Jim Walters wrote: >Anyway, there are a bunch of things to figure out > >- Which APIs to implement > > All of them! I'd start with authentication and authorization, since you'll need to have that for everything else. After that the big two are searching for bugs and retrieving a specific bug, closely followed by submitting a bug and updating an existing bug. It goes on from there. >- What to do when I run up against Bugzilla library functions which are >"close but no cigar" when it comes to being used within the SOAP library >(an initial look at implementing a simple show_bug&id=1 function >indicates this may happen occasionally) > > Fix 'em! >- General philosophy on API arguments but more specifically return >values (thin, heavy, complex, simple) > > API arguments should make sense. I'm not 100% sure what you are asking about return values, but I think the answer is that it varies. The API should be able to provide all the data available, or at least all the data that the current web interface provides. In cases where only a subset of data is regularly required, however, it should be able to retrieve and return just that subset. >- Need to learn Perl better in order to know whether I really need to >resolve namespaces with things like Bugzilla::DB:ConnectToDatabase() all >the time. > > See "use": http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.8.0/pod/func/use.html >The nice surprise was the SOAP support in Mozilla. It will give me a >chance to play with XUL widgets along the way. > > Over in Bugxula I'm building a XUL client for Bugzilla: http://bugxula.mozdev.org/ If you'd like to contribute to this project, please do! -myk From jimw at bugopolis.com Tue Jun 17 16:40:37 2003 From: jimw at bugopolis.com (Jim Walters) Date: 17 Jun 2003 09:40:37 -0700 Subject: SOAP In-Reply-To: <3EEF3B62.8060605@mozilla.org> References: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3EEF3B62.8060605@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <1055868037.1498.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 09:01, Myk Melez wrote: > >Anyway, there are a bunch of things to figure out > > > >- Which APIs to implement > > > > > All of them! I'd start with authentication and authorization, since > you'll need to have that for everything else. After that the big two > are searching for bugs and retrieving a specific bug, closely followed > by submitting a bug and updating an existing bug. It goes on from there. Thanks. I'll start with those. One question is whether (with cookie based authentication) to use the cookie system for SOAP: http://guide.soaplite.com/#security%20(ssl,%20basic/digest%20authentication,%20cookiebased%20authentication,%20ticketbased%20authentication,%20access%20control) I probably need to force the client to keep and resend the authentication token with each API once one has been acquired. > >- General philosophy on API arguments but more specifically return > >values (thin, heavy, complex, simple) > > > > > API arguments should make sense. I'm not 100% sure what you are asking > about return values, but I think the answer is that it varies. The API > should be able to provide all the data available, or at least all the > data that the current web interface provides. In cases where only a > subset of data is regularly required, however, it should be able to > retrieve and return just that subset. Here I'm thinking along the lines of whether it is generally better to use one or two APIs to break up a functions return data. Here is an example... given an API to return query results should it be broken up into two calls (return the ids, and then a second call to return the record values for a single id) or a single super flexible call to return the values for a list of ids. Ideally it would reflect the calls in the Bugzilla library and the SOAP layer would just match the existing APIs. > >The nice surprise was the SOAP support in Mozilla. It will give me a > >chance to play with XUL widgets along the way. > > > > > Over in Bugxula I'm building a XUL client for Bugzilla: > > http://bugxula.mozdev.org/ > > If you'd like to contribute to this project, please do! Definately. From myk at mozilla.org Tue Jun 17 17:07:00 2003 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:07:00 -0700 Subject: SOAP In-Reply-To: <1055868037.1498.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3EEF3B62.8060605@mozilla.org> <1055868037.1498.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3EEF4AB4.1030009@mozilla.org> Jim Walters wrote: >Thanks. I'll start with those. One question is whether (with cookie >based authentication) to use the cookie system for SOAP: > > My guess is yes unless there's a good reason to use something else. >I probably need to force the client to keep and resend the >authentication token with each API once one has been acquired. > > Right. You might also make it possible for the client to send the username/password with every request (as the web interface currently allows), and it should also be possible to make certain calls without authenticating at all. Come to think about it, since you can do a lot without authenticating, perhaps authentication and authorization aren't the highest priorities after all. I'd reorder them as follows: searching for bugs/bug list retrieving a bug authentication/authorization entering a new bug updating an existing bug >Here I'm thinking along the lines of whether it is generally better to >use one or two APIs to break up a functions return data. Here is an >example... given an API to return query results should it be broken up >into two calls (return the ids, and then a second call to return the >record values for a single id) or a single super flexible call to return >the values for a list of ids. > If the API is for query results then I would think it takes a list of criteria and returns the set of matching records. >Ideally it would reflect the calls in the >Bugzilla library and the SOAP layer would just match the existing APIs. > > Right, although we should munge where appropriate to provide a better API where the internal one is crufty. -myk From preed at sigkill.com Tue Jun 17 17:57:48 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SOAP In-Reply-To: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: > - General philosophy on API arguments but more specifically return > values (thin, heavy, complex, simple) I'm not a SOAP guru, so this is a question more than a suggestion, but does it make sense to use (XP)COM-style return values, i.e. a "call succeeded" or "call failed for this specific reason" return value (bug id wasn't a number, bad bug id, etc.) In COM, it's necessary, but I would think that it would make sense here too, because it would give the client very specific information about what the actual error was on the server-side, if there was one. Of course, this requires use of out-parameters, which in perl means "out-references," complicating things, but only slightly. Later, Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Paul Reed preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin From jimw at bugopolis.com Tue Jun 17 18:14:05 2003 From: jimw at bugopolis.com (Jim Walters) Date: 17 Jun 2003 11:14:05 -0700 Subject: SOAP In-Reply-To: References: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1055873644.22817.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Looking at the SOAP return values it appears there are standard key/value sets that get returned for SOAP faults and the values can be customized. Here is the "Discussion" from the SOAPLite page: Discussion You can use die in three different modes: die with string (as in Returning fault, will be reported as faultstring); die with object (as in die_with_object() method, will be reported as detail); die with SOAP::Fault object (as in die_with_fault() method), allows you to specify all parameters of provided Fault. Both faultcode and faultstring are required, so library will specify them for you even if you omit them. On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 10:57, J. Paul Reed wrote: > > - General philosophy on API arguments but more specifically return > > values (thin, heavy, complex, simple) > > I'm not a SOAP guru, so this is a question more than a suggestion, but > does it make sense to use (XP)COM-style return values, i.e. a "call > succeeded" or "call failed for this specific reason" return value (bug id > wasn't a number, bad bug id, etc.) > > In COM, it's necessary, but I would think that it would make sense here > too, because it would give the client very specific information about what > the actual error was on the server-side, if there was one. > > Of course, this requires use of out-parameters, which in perl means > "out-references," complicating things, but only slightly. > > Later, > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > J. Paul Reed preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed > To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > __________________________ Jim Walters Director of Technology Bugopolis, Inc. phone: +1 206 447 8315 email: jimw at bugopolis.com web: http://www.bugopolis.com _________________________ From patrickl at astri.org Fri Jun 20 08:37:13 2003 From: patrickl at astri.org (Patrick Lam) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:37:13 +0800 Subject: Can't access the html files inside the cgi-bin directory... Message-ID: <007101c33707$26596f40$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Dear all: I have the following lines in my httpd.conf file: ------------- ScriptAlias /bugzilla/ "/usr/local/bugzilla/" Options +ExecCGI AllowOverride All ------------------ However, when I access any .html links on the /bugzilla/index.cgi page (e.g. /bugzilla/quicksearch.html), the server always returns a "500 Internal Server Error". It seems like the server is trying to execute the .html file. How can I fix this problem? I think this should be a pretty common one, right? Thanks very much in advance, Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmrobins at tgix.com Fri Jun 20 13:27:45 2003 From: jmrobins at tgix.com (Joseph Robins) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:27:45 -0400 Subject: Can't access the html files inside the cgi-bin directory... In-Reply-To: <007101c33707$26596f40$3a04050a@patricklrd1> References: <007101c33707$26596f40$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Message-ID: <3EF30BD1.9030404@tgix.com> Patrick Lam wrote: > ScriptAlias /bugzilla/ "/usr/local/bugzilla/" > > > Options +ExecCGI > AllowOverride All > You don't need both ScriptAlias and Options +ExecCGI. They're both telling Apache to execute CGI scripts in that directory. There is a difference, however. ScriptAlias (if my memory serves correctly) tells it that _everything_ in that directory is a script, whereas Options +ExecCGI tells it that it's allowed to exec those things that it thinks are CGI. All you need is an Alias directive to tell it where to find the directory, and then the Options +ExecCGI to let it execute the scripts. So what you actually want is: Alias /bugzilla/ "/usr/local/bugzilla/" Options +ExecCGI AllowOverride All HTH. _____________________________________________________________ Joe Robins Tel: 212-918-5057 Thaumaturgix, Inc. Fax: 212-918-5001 19 W. 44th St., 18th Floor Email: jmrobins at tgix.com New York, NY 10036 http://www.tgix.com thau'ma-tur-gy, n. the working of miracles. From hamid.tehrani at hp.com Fri Jun 20 18:21:02 2003 From: hamid.tehrani at hp.com (TEHRANI,HAMID (HP-PaloAlto,ex1)) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:21:02 -0400 Subject: Adding bug description to query result and CSV file Message-ID: Hello, I need to add (the first) Description (not all the comments though) to the query result. I am using Bugzilla 2.17.4. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Hamid Tehrani From lists at mehnle.net Fri Jun 20 19:37:51 2003 From: lists at mehnle.net (Julian Mehnle) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:37:51 +0200 Subject: m2bz: Mantis to Bugzilla Database Migration Tool In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all, David Miller wrote: > On 6/10/2003 11:52 AM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > To include it in Bugzilla (perhaps in the "contrib" directory), it > > > > would probably need to be licensed under the MPL (Mozilla Public > > > > License), either instead or as well, because that's the license > > > > that Bugzilla uses. Do you think your employer might agree to that? > > > > > > I'm going to find out. > > > > Before you do, to avoid possible unnecessary work, you might want to > > wait to hear from Dave Miller, the Bugzilla project leader (who reads > > this list) - he has the final say on what goes in, and might want to > > comment. He'll be waking up in a few hours. ;-) > > Or I might be awake now. :) (just lucky, normally I'm not up this early > in the morning :) I'd be happy to put it in contrib if it was licensed > with MPL. If not, we can link to it from the website and/or docs as > mentioned. Either way, it's way cool that you're making it available, > thanks! m2bz is now dual-licensed under the GNU GPL 2 as well as the MPL 1.1: http://www.mehnle.net/software/m2bz Julian. From preed at sigkill.com Sun Jun 22 22:30:49 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 84876 (MTA Config patch) Funness Message-ID: Hey all: Since I'm now graduma-ated (well... sort of), I've started working on bug 84876, as promised. I've un-bitrotted the ProcessMail.pm patch, and gone through the bug itself + all the old developers@ threads on this bug to make sure that the patch addresses as many of the issues and concerns as possible. Right now, I'm going back and forth between fixing bug 100089, which is the "templatize all email messages bug" and working on 84876. I did it this way because my patch for 84876 effectively forces all Bugzilla mail to be sent via templates... so 100089 and 84876 must be fixed at the same time if we don't want to break mail. This may seem sort of cumbersome (and Gerv's patch doesn't require this), but all email should be sent via templates anyway, and doing it this way not only enforces that, but makes the interface in the client code a bit cleaner. Anyway, expect a new patch to 84876 shortly; this patch allows use of sendmail (as always), Net::SMTP (by specifying your local mail server), and a debug target, which dumps mail to a file. It also makes it easy for Win32-ers (or others) to create a new "mail module" if they want to (although these three mail modules are the only ones the Bugzilla team is slated to support). I'm in the middle of templatizing all the email messages; each message has a body template and a header template. Finally (the real reason for this email), I'd like to create a new directory in CVS for the templates: template/en/default/email. I was actually going back and forth between 'email' and 'mail', but... it's a stylistic issue, mostly. Any problems with that or does it conflict with anyone else's plans? Later, Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Paul Reed preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin From jimw at bugopolis.com Tue Jun 24 15:16:10 2003 From: jimw at bugopolis.com (Jim Walters) Date: 24 Jun 2003 08:16:10 -0700 Subject: SOAP In-Reply-To: <3EEF3B62.8060605@mozilla.org> References: <1055864020.1501.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3EEF3B62.8060605@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <1056467770.6002.149.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have created a GForge project for the SOAP extensions on http://www.tryggth.com There is nothing there yet, but I will be putting up the Perl modules, initial server CGIs that "work" in the Bugzilla directory/module structure and a test .js page that will call into the server. Hopefully this will be in in the next day or two. Along with some branding on the site. Regards, Jim Walters On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 09:01, Myk Melez wrote: > Jim Walters wrote: > > >Anyway, there are a bunch of things to figure out > > > >- Which APIs to implement > > > > > All of them! I'd start with authentication and authorization, since > you'll need to have that for everything else. After that the big two > are searching for bugs and retrieving a specific bug, closely followed > by submitting a bug and updating an existing bug. It goes on from there. > > >- What to do when I run up against Bugzilla library functions which are > >"close but no cigar" when it comes to being used within the SOAP library > >(an initial look at implementing a simple show_bug&id=1 function > >indicates this may happen occasionally) > > > > > Fix 'em! > > >- General philosophy on API arguments but more specifically return > >values (thin, heavy, complex, simple) > > > > > API arguments should make sense. I'm not 100% sure what you are asking > about return values, but I think the answer is that it varies. The API > should be able to provide all the data available, or at least all the > data that the current web interface provides. In cases where only a > subset of data is regularly required, however, it should be able to > retrieve and return just that subset. > > >- Need to learn Perl better in order to know whether I really need to > >resolve namespaces with things like Bugzilla::DB:ConnectToDatabase() all > >the time. > > > > > See "use": > > http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.8.0/pod/func/use.html > > >The nice surprise was the SOAP support in Mozilla. It will give me a > >chance to play with XUL widgets along the way. > > > > > Over in Bugxula I'm building a XUL client for Bugzilla: > > http://bugxula.mozdev.org/ > > If you'd like to contribute to this project, please do! > > -myk > > > ---- > To view or change your list settings, click here: > __________________________ Jim Walters Director of Technology Bugopolis, Inc. phone: +1 206 447 8315 email: jimw at bugopolis.com web: http://www.bugopolis.com _________________________ From gerv at mozilla.org Tue Jun 24 22:01:48 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:01:48 +0100 Subject: 84876 (MTA Config patch) Funness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EF8CA4C.7070106@mozilla.org> J. Paul Reed wrote: > time if we don't want to break mail. This may seem sort of cumbersome (and > Gerv's patch doesn't require this), but all email should be sent via > templates anyway, and doing it this way not only enforces that, but makes > the interface in the client code a bit cleaner. If fixing both at once is the right thing to do, then go ahead :-) > I'm in the middle of templatizing all the email messages; each message has > a body template and a header template. Any particular reason, given that the two will always be combined in the same way? ("It stops people messing things up when editing templates" could well be a valid reason :-) > Finally (the real reason for this email), I'd like to create a new > directory in CVS for the templates: > > template/en/default/email. > > I was actually going back and forth between 'email' and 'mail', but... > it's a stylistic issue, mostly. I'd go for email, personally. Gerv From justdave at syndicomm.com Tue Jun 24 22:07:58 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:07:58 -0400 Subject: 84876 (MTA Config patch) Funness In-Reply-To: <3EF8CA4C.7070106@mozilla.org> References: <3EF8CA4C.7070106@mozilla.org> Message-ID: On 6/24/2003 11:01 PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > J. Paul Reed wrote: > >> I'm in the middle of templatizing all the email messages; each message has >> a body template and a header template. > > Any particular reason, given that the two will always be combined in the > same way? ("It stops people messing things up when editing templates" > could well be a valid reason :-) If we have different mail formats and let people pick between them, the headers would be the same (except for Content-Type, which can be rewritten easily anyway) but the body might be different. For example, the plain ASCII mail like goes out currently... or for our numerous ircbots and other stuff that get email, maybe an XML format. For those people who have mail programs that can view HTML mail decently, an HTML format with the pretty bug activity chart on it. etc. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From gerv at mozilla.org Tue Jun 24 22:13:49 2003 From: gerv at mozilla.org (Gervase Markham) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:13:49 +0100 Subject: Adding bug description to query result and CSV file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EF8CD1D.4030902@mozilla.org> TEHRANI,HAMID (HP-PaloAlto,ex1) wrote: > I need to add (the first) Description (not all the comments though) to the > query result. I am using Bugzilla 2.17.4. Any help is appreciated. This requires code changes. You need to edit query.cgi (or perhaps Bug.pm) to make it retrieve this information and add it to the hash representing each bug, and then edit the templates to make it one of the possible columns. The newsgroup is probably a better place to ask support questions. Gerv From preed at sigkill.com Wed Jun 25 08:23:55 2003 From: preed at sigkill.com (J. Paul Reed) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 84876 (MTA Config patch) Funness In-Reply-To: <3EF8CA4C.7070106@mozilla.org> References: <3EF8CA4C.7070106@mozilla.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Gervase Markham wrote: > If fixing both at once is the right thing to do, then go ahead :-) One of the "interface is nicer" things is clients (i.e. .cgis) specify which template file they want to send, and then pass the template the information it wants. > Any particular reason, given that the two will always be combined in the > same way? ("It stops people messing things up when editing templates" > could well be a valid reason :-) That, and what Justdave said. The SMTP RFC (2822, is it?) is pretty specific about what can go in a header (7-bit vs. 8-bit, etc.), but as Justdave points out, lots of things can go in a message, and we may put different things in bodies based upon formats (when I did the design, I actually thought about MIME and sending attachments in emails, both of which are filed bugs). > I'd go for email, personally. We have a vote for "email." I'll go ahead and create that directory in the next couple of days unless anyone stops me. Later, Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Paul Reed preed at sigkill.com || web.sigkill.com/preed To hold on to sanity too tight is insane. -- Nick Falzone, Pushing Tin From patrickl at astri.org Wed Jun 25 09:22:36 2003 From: patrickl at astri.org (Patrick Lam) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:22:36 +0800 Subject: Cannot obtain results from any queries... Message-ID: <000701c33afb$527a1280$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Dear all: I have been having trouble searching bugs from the database. I know that the MySQL is working because "My Bugs" works, so does "Find bug #". However, whenever I tried to use the query page to query for bug entries, no matter how specific (highlight only the "properties" of a bug entry) or general (highlight every options)), it still returns nothing. Are there some common configuration tricks that I missed? Or I just have to learn how to query bugs again? Thanks very much in advance. Regards, Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dswegen at software.plasmon.com Wed Jun 25 10:01:10 2003 From: dswegen at software.plasmon.com (Dave Swegen) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:01:10 +0100 Subject: Is CVSzilla the only integration between CVS and Bugzilla? In-Reply-To: <001001c33afd$f734b7b0$3a04050a@patricklrd1> References: <001001c33afd$f734b7b0$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Message-ID: <20030625100110.GA12999@software.plasmon> On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 05:41:28PM +0800, Patrick Lam wrote: > Dear all: > > I am just wondering if CVSzilla is the only tool that allows integration > between CVS and Bugzilla? > > According to Bugzilla's documentation, > > "available integration with automated software configuration management > systems, including Perforce and CVS (through the Bugzilla email > interface and checkin/checkout scripts)" > > But I cannot find any description about how to implement that. Any > pointers please? > Take a look at bug 199116 (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199116), which has patches to provide integration of cvs->bugzilla, and bugzilla->viewcvs. Works very nicely for us. Cheers Dave From kiko at async.com.br Wed Jun 25 12:23:14 2003 From: kiko at async.com.br (Christian Reis) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:23:14 -0300 Subject: Cannot obtain results from any queries... In-Reply-To: <000701c33afb$527a1280$3a04050a@patricklrd1> References: <000701c33afb$527a1280$3a04050a@patricklrd1> Message-ID: <20030625122314.GK5579@async.com.br> On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 05:22:36PM +0800, Patrick Lam wrote: > I have been having trouble searching bugs from the database. I know that > the MySQL is working because "My Bugs" works, so does "Find bug #". > However, whenever I tried to use the query page to query for bug entries, > no matter how specific (highlight only the "properties" of a bug entry) or > general (highlight every options)), it still returns nothing. Do your product names have non-ascii characters in them? Occasionally I ran into a problem before I explicitly set the charset for bugzilla's pages: the browser had identified an incorrect charset and queries failed bacause of it. Take care, -- Christian Reis, Senior Engineer, Async Open Source, Brazil. http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 261 2331 | NMFL From dberlin at dberlin.org Wed Jun 25 17:15:41 2003 From: dberlin at dberlin.org (Daniel Berlin) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: Is CVSzilla the only integration between CVS and Bugzilla? In-Reply-To: <20030625100110.GA12999@software.plasmon> References: <001001c33afd$f734b7b0$3a04050a@patricklrd1> <20030625100110.GA12999@software.plasmon> Message-ID: On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 6:01 AM, Dave Swegen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 05:41:28PM +0800, Patrick Lam wrote: >> Dear all: >> >> I am just wondering if CVSzilla is the only tool that allows >> integration >> between CVS and Bugzilla? >> >> According to Bugzilla's documentation, >> >> "available integration with automated software configuration >> management >> systems, including Perforce and CVS (through the Bugzilla email >> interface and checkin/checkout scripts)" >> >> But I cannot find any description about how to implement that. Any >> pointers please? >> > > Take a look at bug 199116 > (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199116), which has patches > to provide integration of cvs->bugzilla, and bugzilla->viewcvs. Works > very nicely for us. > I've also got a version of log_accum that works with Bugzilla for people who use that instead of the bugzilla-watcher script. > From JWilmoth at starbucks.com Wed Jun 25 18:04:02 2003 From: JWilmoth at starbucks.com (Jon Wilmoth) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:04:02 -0700 Subject: Problem with TT variables Message-ID: I'm working on a patch for http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13540 and am not having any success implementing the variable names the way Gerv has suggested (required?). This bug basically tries to turn a few Bugzilla terms into variables that can be customized. The approach I took was to create a hash of terms in a new file global/variables.none.tmpl and reference them in the various templates that use those terms. Sounds simple enough, but getting the variables to be declared and referenced in one way is proving very difficult for a TT newbie. There are basically three code usage scenarios in which the template variables need to work: 1) Simple in-template usage (example from template/en/default/bug/create/create.html.tmpl): (Leave all boxes unchecked to make this a public [% global.terms.bug %].) 2) Process usage (example from template/en/default/bug/create/create.html.tmpl): [% PROCESS global/header.html.tmpl title = "Enter $global.terms.Bug" h2 = "This page lets you enter a new $global.terms.bug into $global.terms.Bugzilla." %] 3) In-template hash definition (example from template/en/default/global/field-descs.none.tmpl): [% field_descs = { "[Bug creation]" => "[$global.terms.Bug creation]", The only code I've been able to get working under all three cases is: 1) Including the variable file - [% INCLUDE global/variables.none.tmpl %] 2) Defining the hash in variables.none.tmpl using the global namespace keyword like so: [% global.terms = { bug = "bug", Bug = "Bug", abug = "a bug", Abug = "A bug", bugs = "bugs", Bugs = "Bugs", zeroSearchResults = "Zarro Boogs found", bit = "bit", bits = "bits", Bugzilla = "Bugzilla" } %] 3) Referencing the termanology variables using [% global.terms.bug %] (scenario 1) or $ global.terms.bug (scenario 2 & 3). Changing the way the variables are brought into a template to - [% PROCESS global/variables.none.tmpl %] instead of INCLUDE allows the variables has to be declared and referenced without the global prefix in usage scenario #1, but they are not resolved under usage scenarios #2 & #3. I realize this is somewhat against the normal usage of includes as normally you pass variables *TO* an include/process page instead of attempting to use variables defined *BY* an include, but if anyone knows TT well enough to give me some direction, I'd appreciate it. From justdave at syndicomm.com Wed Jun 25 18:54:19 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:54:19 -0400 Subject: Problem with TT variables In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/25/2003 11:04 AM -0700, Jon Wilmoth wrote: > I realize this is somewhat against the normal usage of includes as > normally you pass variables *TO* an include/process page instead of > attempting to use variables defined *BY* an include, but if anyone knows > TT well enough to give me some direction, I'd appreciate it. global/field-descs.none.tmpl is almost exactly the same concept. Look at how it does it. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From myk at mozilla.org Thu Jun 26 08:03:36 2003 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:03:36 -0700 Subject: NTP - another one for the list Message-ID: <3EFAA8D8.9090703@mozilla.org> http://bugzilla.ntp.org/ From rlb at defaultvalue.org Mon Jun 30 15:51:51 2003 From: rlb at defaultvalue.org (Rob Browning) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:51:51 -0500 Subject: capabilities of forthcoming group changes Message-ID: <87el1bmulk.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> I've read that the development version is altering the way groups work to be more flexible and to support larger numbers of groups, and so I was wondering if the new arrangement might allow an arrangement that would: - prevent the creation of public bug report for some (perhaps all) products by either all users (or perhaps just users in some groups). - prevent some users (or perhaps users in some groups) from being able to alter the group assignments of a bug report. - prevent some users from seeing the bugs filed by other users (this is already supported, but see the particular context below). The overall purpose would be to accommodate a situation where there are several organizations submitting bugs with respect to a given product. These organizations should be allowed to create and manipulate their own bugs, but they should not be allowed to see, or manipulate bugs filed by other organizations. Right now (in 2.16.3) you can get something like this by turning on usebuggroups and usebuggroupsentry and then creating a generic group for each organization. Then each member of an organization can be placed in their organization group, and in the product group for each of the products for which they're allowed to submit bugs. Ideally, when a member of an organization submits a bug, the appropriate two product and organization groups should be checked. However in 2.16.3, you can't enforce those group assignments at bug creation time and even if you could, members of the organization can always edit the group assignments later. An alternate approach might be to just create a separate product for each organization; so you'd have product1-org1, product1-org2, etc., and each member of a given organization would only be placed in "their product group" for a given product. Of course this still wouldn't prevent them from unchecking that group and making the bug public, and it would make it harder to search for all the bugs relating to a given product (and run reports, etc.). In any case, I just wanted to see how what's planned (or already implemented) might or might not be able to accommodate the scenario above. Thanks -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org; previously @cs.utexas.edu GPG starting 2002-11-03 = 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4 From justdave at syndicomm.com Mon Jun 30 15:59:05 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:59:05 -0400 Subject: capabilities of forthcoming group changes In-Reply-To: <87el1bmulk.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> References: <87el1bmulk.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> Message-ID: On 6/30/2003 10:51 AM -0500, Rob Browning wrote: > I've read that the development version is altering the way groups work > to be more flexible and to support larger numbers of groups, and so I > was wondering if the new arrangement might allow an arrangement that > would: > > - prevent the creation of public bug report for some (perhaps all) > products by either all users (or perhaps just users in some > groups). Yes. > - prevent some users (or perhaps users in some groups) from being > able to alter the group assignments of a bug report. Yes. > - prevent some users from seeing the bugs filed by other users (this > is already supported, but see the particular context below). Yes. And the context you give is exactly what it was designed for. :) > In any case, I just wanted to see how what's planned (or already > implemented) might or might not be able to accommodate the scenario > above. It's already implemented in 2.17.3 and up. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From rlb at defaultvalue.org Mon Jun 30 16:22:01 2003 From: rlb at defaultvalue.org (Rob Browning) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:22:01 -0500 Subject: capabilities of forthcoming group changes In-Reply-To: (David Miller's message of "Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:59:05 -0400") References: <87el1bmulk.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> Message-ID: <874r27mt7a.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> David Miller writes: > Yes. > > Yes. > > Yes. And the context you give is exactly what it was designed for. :) > > It's already implemented in 2.17.3 and up. Very nice. So is 2.17.3 at a stage where it would be even remotely sane to consider using as long as we're willing to accept a bit of instability? I'm not quite familiar enough with the bugzilla development process/cycle yet to be able to estimate that myself. Thanks much. -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org; previously @cs.utexas.edu GPG starting 2002-11-03 = 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4 From JWilmoth at starbucks.com Mon Jun 30 16:50:42 2003 From: JWilmoth at starbucks.com (Jon Wilmoth) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:50:42 -0700 Subject: capabilities of forthcoming group changes Message-ID: We've been using version 2.17.3 for ~4 months without any significant problems (user base of 100+). We are planning to upgrade to 2.17.4 as it contains a fix for an erroneous attachment error message, but that's not exactly a showstopper in my opinion. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Browning [mailto:rlb at defaultvalue.org] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:22 AM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: capabilities of forthcoming group changes David Miller writes: > Yes. > > Yes. > > Yes. And the context you give is exactly what it was designed for. :) > > It's already implemented in 2.17.3 and up. Very nice. So is 2.17.3 at a stage where it would be even remotely sane to consider using as long as we're willing to accept a bit of instability? I'm not quite familiar enough with the bugzilla development process/cycle yet to be able to estimate that myself. Thanks much. -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org; previously @cs.utexas.edu GPG starting 2002-11-03 = 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4 - To view or change your list settings, click here: From justdave at syndicomm.com Mon Jun 30 16:54:39 2003 From: justdave at syndicomm.com (David Miller) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:54:39 -0400 Subject: capabilities of forthcoming group changes In-Reply-To: <874r27mt7a.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> References: <87el1bmulk.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <874r27mt7a.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> Message-ID: On 6/30/2003 11:22 AM -0500, Rob Browning wrote: > David Miller writes: > >> Yes. >> >> Yes. >> >> Yes. And the context you give is exactly what it was designed for. :) >> >> It's already implemented in 2.17.3 and up. > > Very nice. So is 2.17.3 at a stage where it would be even remotely > sane to consider using as long as we're willing to accept a bit of > instability? I'm not quite familiar enough with the bugzilla > development process/cycle yet to be able to estimate that myself. > > Thanks much. Re-posting from a message to the mozilla-webtools list a couple days ago: When we call it stable, what that actually means is the code for it is living on a branch, which gets ONLY security fixes and low-risk high-impact bugfixes, and has also had a month or so of "cooling off" time on the branch prior to release without getting new features or high-risk bugfixes checked in. In terms of behaving well on a production system, the 2.17.x development releases are "generally" well-behaved... however, they haven't had a cooling off period, so there may be unknown issues lurking around somewhere. If the release you're looking at has been out for a month or so, usually you can ask around and people will be able to tell you if it's safe for production or not. In hindsight, 2.17.1 was generally safe (except we've fixed security bugs since then). 2.17.3 had a problem sending mail when people uploaded new attachments (which was the only major issue with 2.17.3 that I knew of). 2.17.4 seems to be pretty safe again so far (we've had it running on an internal site [Bugscape] at Netscape for a couple months with no real issues). The other major difference between a "stable" release and a development release is that if a major issue IS found in a development release then you may have to pick up new features as well in order to get the bugfix for it. Whereas with the "stable" releases, if a *major* problem is found, normally you can get a new release with *only* the fix to that problem in it. This of course all depends on how severe the error is. If it's high-risk to fix or there's an easy workaround, it likely won't be fixed on the stable branch. -- Dave Miller Project Leader, Bugzilla Bug Tracking System http://www.justdave.net/ http://www.bugzilla.org/ From caseyg at chsamerica.com Mon Jun 30 18:41:53 2003 From: caseyg at chsamerica.com (Casey Gregoire) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:41:53 -0400 Subject: capabilities of forthcoming group changes Message-ID: We use 2.17.4, but we are ready to back up to 2.17.3 if something major happens. We just back up the data everyday in case it does. I don't if you would call the brave or ..... any how, the development versions have been no problem for us in the past few months. Thanks, Casey Gregoire -----Original Message----- From: Jon Wilmoth [mailto:JWilmoth at starbucks.com] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:51 PM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: capabilities of forthcoming group changes We've been using version 2.17.3 for ~4 months without any significant problems (user base of 100+). We are planning to upgrade to 2.17.4 as it contains a fix for an erroneous attachment error message, but that's not exactly a showstopper in my opinion. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Browning [mailto:rlb at defaultvalue.org] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:22 AM To: developers at bugzilla.org Subject: Re: capabilities of forthcoming group changes David Miller writes: > Yes. > > Yes. > > Yes. And the context you give is exactly what it was designed for. :) > > It's already implemented in 2.17.3 and up. Very nice. So is 2.17.3 at a stage where it would be even remotely sane to consider using as long as we're willing to accept a bit of instability? I'm not quite familiar enough with the bugzilla development process/cycle yet to be able to estimate that myself. Thanks much. -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org; previously @cs.utexas.edu GPG starting 2002-11-03 = 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4 - To view or change your list settings, click here: - To view or change your list settings, click here: From caseyg at chsamerica.com Mon Jun 30 19:11:22 2003 From: caseyg at chsamerica.com (Casey Gregoire) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:11:22 -0400 Subject: Bugzilla.mozilla.org Message-ID: What kind of hardware does the Bugzilla page run on? (I am not complaining about speed, but it does seem to run a little slow.) I was wondering how much of that is the size of the database, and how much of that is the server it runs on. And maybe, how many other things run on that server? Our database here is growing at a rate of about 1000 bugs a month sometimes more, and I would like to get some info for future planning. Thank you, Casey Gregoire Programmer CHS of America 100 1st Ave S. Suite 601 St. Petersburg, FL 33701 Phone - (727) 824-0800 ext 1236 Every great achievement was once impossible. -- Anonymous I'd like to get started on time, if we can, inasmuch as we're late already. -- Larry Gelbart Nothing is accomplished without passion. -- My Fortune Cookie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: