Colin Bendell cbendell at
Tue Dec 23 16:49:05 UTC 2003

IE also has support for soap via non standard means since IE5.0.  Check out:


From: developers-owner at on behalf of Gervase Markham
Sent: Tue 2003-12-23 2:38 AM
To: developers at
Subject: Re: SOAP

Joel Peshkin wrote: 
>    I have been looking at SOAP and it looks like the right way to let 
> javascript functions access databases so that mid-air checks can happen 
> earliers, user matching can be done while editing (replacing wildcards 
> and drop-down user pickers) and a whole lot more. 

A few thoughts: 

What's the particular advantage of SOAP (which, as I understand it, is 
an XML wrapper format for wrapping more XML), given that browsers mostly 
don't support it natively? I think Moz might, a little bit, but IE 
doesn't as far as I know. 

Such checking could only be done in really modern browsers, anyway - 
older ones don't support JS fetching arbitrary documents without a page 
reload of some sort. 

Is it worth all the effort and added complexity that it would require? 
What is your "whole lot more"? :-) 

Mid-air checks can't be done earlier with 100% accuracy, of course, 
because if you check at some point before submission, you have to check 
again on submission anyway. 

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