<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>I am not part of bugzilla / bmo projects, but I dont see how anyone is being prevented from working on an updated UI for bugzilla. <br><br></div>I am currently working on <a href="https://www.bzlite.com">https://www.bzlite.com</a> (<a href="https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/bzlite/">https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/bzlite/</a>) and would very much welcome anyone who wanted to contribute. Similiarly there is <a href="https://www.bzdeck.com">https://www.bzdeck.com</a> which is also open source.<br></div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 November 2015 at 16:10, Gervase Markham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gerv@mozilla.org" target="_blank">gerv@mozilla.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Denis,<br>
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On 20/11/15 15:48, Denis Roy wrote:<br>
> In Open Source, I don't see how these two models can coexist. In fact, I<br>
> see this methodology as the biggest possible barrier to external<br>
> contributions, and no tool (Git, Github) can fix that.<br>
><br>
> Don't get me wrong, I'm a happy BZ user & admin for many years, but the<br>
> biggest gripe my userbase has about BZ is the 1990's UI. At Eclipse<br>
> we're willing to roll up our sleeves and help fix it, but we can't do<br>
> that when the BZ devs are cheering on the BMO team from the sidelines.<br>
<br>
</span>I think there has perhaps been some misunderstanding here. The BMO team<br>
has made its own decision about how to run BMO; those in the Bugzilla<br>
community who are not BMO devs may or may not agree with it, but we have<br>
no say in it. So it seems odd to characterise us as "cheering from the<br>
sidelines", as if we both endorse what they are doing and are equally<br>
happy to do nothing while they do it. Both impressions are partially or<br>
wholly wrong.<br>
<br>
The Bugzilla community would love you at Eclipse to get involved and<br>
help update the UI. One thing you could seriously consider would be<br>
porting the updated API-using show_bug view deployed on BMO to trunk<br>
Bugzilla, if you agree that this sort of thing is the future. The BMO<br>
team have said they don't have time to do that port, but the upstream<br>
Bugzilla team very much want the feature.<br>
<br>
Gerv<br>
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